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In Reply to: Norm, I think you're missing the point. posted by Rick W on May 29, 2006 at 16:00:30:
I don't believe a word of what Kait's web site says, but I know that what I heard in the demonstration was real. I really would like to know what is going on and did have an explanation in private that I was charged not to repeat, but I clearly do not believe that fraud is involved.Because of all the IC discussions where people would not even try the chips, I have a neigh jerk reaction to the scam police, especially when I think it is a very limited understanding of what science can tell us and how it goes about its business, especially the idea of authority.
All I can say, Jim, if you read this, is that I really hate your title and all that it implies.
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- You are right. I just am offended by chips for chumps - Norm 16:39:17 05/29/06 (66)
- I did try the silly things and I can't think of a better title. - Dave Pogue 16:45:12 05/29/06 (0)
- Your anger is misplaced. - bjh 18:13:30 05/29/06 (64)
- Almost agree (surprise!) - Charles Hansen 19:01:13 05/29/06 (59)
- Re: Almost agree (surprise!) - John Atkinson 19:26:00 05/29/06 (48)
- Pls cancel my subscrtiption!!! - hexenboden 19:39:27 05/29/06 (0)
- I largely agree with Charles, and I think you are trying to draw the line for him and others - Norm 20:23:51 05/29/06 (1)
- "So was the X ray." And look at all the, ah, scientists who derided the concept. Just like anaesthesia. nt - clarkjohnsen 09:09:41 05/30/06 (0)
- Try the SPECTRA Dynamics Foculpods ... - bjh 20:59:27 05/29/06 (0)
- Wull, yahbut - Charles Hansen 04:45:52 05/30/06 (2)
- Stop making sense! nt - clarkjohnsen 09:10:24 05/30/06 (1)
- Am an attendant lord, one that will do (nt) - Jim Austin 10:11:53 05/30/06 (0)
- A matter of trust? - Charles Hansen 07:38:39 05/30/06 (10)
- "Steve Harris, Ken Kessler, John Curl, and Bobby Palkovic." Pish tish! Mere dabblers! nt - clarkjohnsen 09:13:22 05/30/06 (9)
- Re: "Steve Harris, Ken Kessler, John Curl, and Bobby Palkovic." Pish tish! Mere dabblers! nt - Charles Hansen 09:22:43 05/30/06 (7)
- Shows what I get for... - clarkjohnsen 09:36:35 05/30/06 (6)
- Yeah, Harvard is famous for its music appreciation courses. GMAB. nt - Rick W 09:49:11 05/30/06 (4)
- Actually . . . it is. nt - markrohr 08:37:45 05/31/06 (3)
- Is, and was since the 1800s, sporting the country's oldest continuing performing orchestra. nt - clarkjohnsen 08:45:11 05/31/06 (0)
- Plus -- that coarse and crass poster once again demonstrates his ignorance and presumption. nt - clarkjohnsen 08:48:04 05/31/06 (1)
- I gotta eat crow. - Rick W 19:10:58 05/31/06 (0)
- Shows that attempting to educate a block head is as futile as using a brick to absorb a spill? nt - bjh 10:09:38 05/30/06 (0)
- No, I'm not Prince Hamlet! (nt) - Jim Austin 10:11:26 05/30/06 (0)
- Words of wisdom from the past? - Charles Hansen 07:49:09 05/30/06 (29)
- Are you confused Mr. Hansen? - bjh 09:04:05 05/30/06 (2)
- Now we know why you and I rarely agree - Charles Hansen 09:21:30 05/30/06 (1)
- Not terribly bright are you? ... a quality concomitant with the need to be always right. nt - bjh 10:24:38 05/30/06 (0)
- Re: Words of wisdom from the past? - May Belt 10:20:50 05/30/06 (4)
- Re: Words of wisdom from the past? - bjh 13:56:27 05/31/06 (2)
- Re: Words of wisdom from the past? - May Belt 14:47:43 05/31/06 (1)
- Thank you. Quite a qualification I must say! - bjh 19:45:55 05/31/06 (0)
- "They think people should know"? But PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO KNOW! - clarkjohnsen 10:38:49 05/31/06 (0)
- Re: Words of wisdom from the past? - John Atkinson 11:15:33 05/30/06 (20)
- Wull, yahbut - Charles Hansen 12:04:36 05/30/06 (19)
- Aaah... - John Atkinson 14:19:59 05/30/06 (18)
- So I suppose that next Stereophile will start publishing Arny Krueger? - Charles Hansen 16:07:23 05/30/06 (3)
- Re: So I suppose that next Stereophile will start publishing Arny Krueger? - John Atkinson 22:25:15 05/31/06 (0)
- I think he'd have to learn to write first. nt - Analog Scott 16:25:04 05/30/06 (1)
- Actually, there is a debate between AK and JA on the Stereophile site. - Pat D 07:16:31 06/01/06 (0)
- As an editor I will agree with John - David W. Robinson 20:15:52 05/30/06 (6)
- Exactly Right - John Atkinson 22:22:09 05/31/06 (1)
- Please note... - Jim Austin 09:28:30 06/01/06 (0)
- As always, the devil is in the details - Charles Hansen 21:02:27 05/30/06 (3)
- Actually, the devil can be many places... - David W. Robinson 23:51:38 05/30/06 (2)
- You would have a different view if you read the article in question. - Charles Hansen 05:44:44 05/31/06 (1)
- One could further add that Austin *ceremoniously* trashed it. - clarkjohnsen 10:30:08 05/31/06 (0)
- The central fact remains... - Jim Austin 04:46:08 05/31/06 (6)
- Re: The central fact remains... - john curl 21:40:16 05/31/06 (1)
- Here's the thread I was referring to over the 'phone. - clarkjohnsen 07:39:37 06/05/06 (0)
- More bullshit appealing to emotions, without a shred of evidence. - Charles Hansen 05:49:22 05/31/06 (1)
- Tune in next week when we'll witness our hero, ... - bjh 07:10:25 05/31/06 (0)
- I must say ... - bjh 08:09:14 05/31/06 (0)
- "...and Charles Hansen gets richer." Now *that* is genuinely crude... and too late to delete! nt - clarkjohnsen 10:34:52 05/31/06 (0)
- Well, taking a page from the Hansen Method - How to Respond to a Conciliatory Entreaty ... - bjh 20:28:37 05/29/06 (6)
- You forgot "dink"! (nt) - Jim Austin 03:04:44 05/30/06 (1)
- Drink! - Charles Hansen 04:51:01 05/30/06 (0)
- Even though I was pretty sure what the content of this post would be like... - andy_c 09:19:06 05/30/06 (3)
- Re: Even though I was pretty sure what the content of this post would be like... - Charles Hansen 09:30:08 05/30/06 (2)
- Okay, I will try to look up info... - andy_c 18:47:01 05/30/06 (1)
- Re: Okay, I will try to look up info... - Charles Hansen 19:07:07 05/30/06 (0)
- A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE -- "Tell us how it works or I won't try it." "What you tell us about how it works... - clarkjohnsen 09:16:59 05/30/06 (1)
- Full of high sentence, but a bit obtuse; (nt) - Jim Austin 10:15:59 05/30/06 (0)
- An ordinary Joe Consumer's take on this - rbolaw 14:22:46 05/30/06 (0)
- Re: Ah, proving once again - geoffkait 09:49:28 05/30/06 (2)
- Let me guess ... your "comment" can only be explained with reference to Quantum Electro Dynamics? nt - bjh 09:55:17 05/30/06 (1)
- Actually explained by regnad kcin. nt. - Lynn 18:56:07 05/31/06 (0)
- Just trying to understand. - hexenboden 13:20:22 05/30/06 (0)