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Re: Please explain "listener's fatigue"

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>And yours can? If so, it's the only audio system on earth
>(or you've never heard the BSO performing say Mahler's 7th or 8th
> live then).

Yes, I can. However the 7th or 8th row, IMHO, is not paticulary suited to hear music comfatably because at that frontal seat you can hear only the front sections of strings. The balance is very bad indeed. You can not get a decent perspective of an orchestra. Instead I usually hear at 17th to 21th row, where I can get a 60 degree perspective as I listen to it on Stereo . Measuring at this 20th seat of Mahler No.2 at an local ortchestral hall I coud get only 103db at the peak. Average stil parts consist of 65db-75db, 90db can be heard rathe roudly.
I recommend you to bring RS SPL meter with you to a consort, for I always bring a SPL meter with me to every coseorts I attend to.
I often observe, in the most cases, the SPL by audhiophiles are even louder than the live classical music in SPL. Despite of this fact it is also often the case that his/her system do not sound as loud as the live. One of my perpose of get my SEREO as true to the live as possible is to get the loudenss of the lives and the recordings hear the same way, by this you can get excellent tonal balance, in which I has succeeded in. So I believe now a day I can not detect
any significant difference between the live and the recordiing. This streanuous efforts of comparing the live in the recording provd the fact that CD has more accurate in dynamic and
LP usually falls far behind CD in dynamics whith a few exception of direct-cuttiong LPs.
My measureing is not restricted in orchestra, I often attend salon consorts by Jorg Demus, a wien famouse pianist as you know him.
What you wrote after the quote above simply contradicts with the fact I ovserve.

>. DID YOU OR DIDN'T YOU USE AN ORIGINAL MERCURY LP FOR THE STARKER COMPARISONS

‚v‚ˆ‚™ should I get exhorbitantly priced used orginal Mercury in the first place?
The eraly Mercury recordings of Starker BACH unacompanied Cello suites are not pariculaly
superbe in comparing to the later recordings such as Anner Bylsma(1979 sony), Mischar Maisky(1894 DG),
Rostropovich(1995 EMI), etc. I can recommend you Guido Schifen(1996 ArteNova), which is quite
cheap but sound more excellent than the old recording of Starker. These are all available on CD.
If you did meant to say about Dovorak Cell Consort od Strker, how about an early digital recordong
from BIS by Frans Helmerson, which has x3 dynamics range than the Starker that be careful adjusting
the volume setting so as not to hart your mervelous speakers. The second myth in u.s beside over-estition on LP is the over-estimation of american old recordigs such as LivingStereo and LivingPresence. I believe at those time around the 1960, Europians have made more excellent recordings in abandance, such as Matthaus Passion by Kerl Richter on DG ARCHIV(1957), KLemperor's recordings on EM(cica. 1960) etc.etc.,

a owner of Ongaku amp.
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