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In Reply to: RE: Tweeter difference problem with 3.3Rs and more posted by Satie on September 2, 2010 at 11:16:33:
Sorry Saite,
Wrote this too, - forgot to post with the other message!
Back to turntables..!
Which Lenco did you have?
I had a Gl75 I ran for a while,using Linn Ittok and Basik arms, - that was pretty good. But the GL59 I had (which was rarer) that did sound quite a bit better, - it had its own 10" pivoted arm (unlike the unipivots the 75 series had). The headshel however did not allow for different cartridge use and I didn't want to modify it. I sold it in the end for a big profit, but I kind of wish i had kept it, - that was a nice turntable.
The Linn is a temperamental turntable, - as I'm sure you know, - setup is really important, - particularly the suspension adjustment and siting. A badly adjusted Linn sounds bad, and they can drift quite quickly too. Its a real pain, - and is pretty expensive to have a pro set it your deck up every year or so.
I think the Linn's main charm (when set up well) is its musicality and the emotional involvement you get with the music, - it does seem to have that more than many other turntables. The post 1988 upgrades of Ekos, Lingo and then Cirkus do make the deck sound more dynamic and more neutral, but I tried all these upgrades and a lot of the charm is progressively lost with them in my opinion. System matching is key with the Linn as well of course and putting it with soft, undynamic sounding phono stages and amps is not a great idea, - I find it does not like valve phono stages that well as they are too soft and not tight enough sounding (apart from the Audio innovations P2 I had which I regretfully also sold!). Naim equipment is a great partner with the LP12 in my opinion, - the dynamics and pace of the Naim phono stages and amps really balance out the LP12s softer, less dynamic characteristics, - my Dads 80s LP12 sounded fantastic with his Naim amp setup on the Maggie MGIIIs. He used the Linn Karma cartridge, - which sounded very similar to the Troika (in fact virtually the same apart from the third bolt on the Troika).
Those Supex based Linn cartridges (Asak, Karma, Troika) all have the Ogura elliptical stylus tip, - which I have been told by the guys at Expert sylus co, has a full frontal radius, - very similar to a spherical stylus, - so that's really does partly explain the lack of top end you heard!, - slightly similar situation to the Denon DL103. To be fair though I did have an Toika with the original tip a couple of years ago and it does sound quite sweet, and in my opinion it has has more extension than the Dl103. Compared to the DL304 though it miles of the pace in terms of treble extension. The ESC retipped Troika I have with the paratrace tip (a very fine tip I believe) has much better extension. It has a slightly more analytical sound than the original Toika, but that perhaps a good thing anyway and a good compromise to get some top end. Like I say its sort of half way between a Denon DL103 and DL304 in my opinion in terms of balance. It has a lot of bass and good dyanmics. From what you have told me so far I think you will like the DL304 best though, - extension is one of its best characteristics and its got a pretty neutral sound, along with it too, as well as the musicality etc I told you about. A guy replied to my wanted ad, - he is sending me a used Dl304. He says its had about 150 hours. I'll see how it sounds, - if I think its not good enough to send to you (wouldn't want you hearing rubbish) I'll sell it and buy a new one!)
All the best,
Colin
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- RE: Tweeter difference problem with 3.3Rs and more - Davy 19:27:58 09/02/10 (1)
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