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Re: What Floyd said

Could you show where "conflict between preferences and measurements" exists here. "

Um, all of Floyd Toole's research for one.......

--What Floyd O’Toole actually said (excerpts)

Clearly, frequency response curves must be interpreted. Frequency responses must also be measured in a manner that reveals resonances as distinct from interference peaks and dips – i.e. spatial averaging. The sad conclusion, therefore, is that standard verbal descriptions of frequency response are not useful, and most published graphs are not of the right kind to allow for unambiguous interpretation. It is easy to understand how the popular belief that ‘you can’t measure what you can hear’ came to be. Bad measurements and useless specifications are responsible.
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.. measurements of the right kind are good predictors of how loudspeakers sound. But, are there other predictors? After 25 years of doing evaluations of this kind it can be said that there are no safe assumptions when it comes to choosing loudspeakers. Price is certainly an unreliable indicator of sonic excellence, as is transducer type. For each example of a good cone/dome, electrostatic, panel, or whatever, kind of loudspeaker, it is possible to find ones that are not well designed. The competence of the engineering, and the attitude of brand marketing towards achieving excellence and neutrality in sound quality, are the real differentiating factors in how loudspeakers sound.

An excerpt from a one my previous posts

Measurements are not there to serve the listening experience, they are there to measure the performance of the component under test, it is job of the designer to model the performance of his products to satisfy a particular target audience to ensure market success, and that exactly what is happening, many high end designers have discovered that their target audience is not interested in 'straight wire with gain' and/or simply prefer certain obsolete technologies even if they protest to the contrary, and they are producing products to satisfy that demand
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Measurements objectively define ACTUAL performance of a component,

Now to address a few points in your almost incomprehensible post.

"Why are the measurements of the Pro audio components meaningless because they are not the preference of the typical audiophile?"

1.Apples and oranges.The guy is clearly saying that he uses pro gear for a something other than listening pleasure.
2. Where does it say anything about measurements here? Hin't: it doesn't. Your excerpt is utterly and completely irrelevant.

-- This is a ridiculous question since you answered it yourself a few sentences later when said "notion that flat frequency response in a home speaker is rather dubious at best" obviously in response to " But they have qualities that most home gear, and even high end gear don't posses, mainly a much flatter response curve." What is response curve, if not a measurement? Your comments though are incomprehensible.


"Tuckers clearly states here that the preference of the Pro and that the audiophile differ,"

He also clearly staes a difference in purpose. DUH

-- Your comments are simply laughable, a difference in purpose resulted in a difference of preference, its that simple. Your quibble here is asinine.

The rest of your post is nigh incomprehensible. But as you can see Floyd does not share your opinion on measurements, rather he sees them as erroneous obversation.




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