In Reply to: And... posted by mkuller on January 8, 2007 at 10:53:14:
I am not one who necessarily disagrees.Golf: The Taylormade club hits the ball on the avreage, 20 yards further than all other clubs... Is that subjective?
scuba: The tinkle tank had air cpacity that lasted 15 minutes longer than any other similarly sized tank. is that subjective?
tennis: The Brand X ball can be hit 15 MPH faster than any other ball. Subjective?
bicycling: This bicyle weighs 10 Lbs less due to it's carbon fiber frame. Objective. The bearings have much less friction than any other made. Maybe subjective, depending on how you want to interpret it.
sports cars: The Corvette goes 0 - 60 in 4.5 seconds. Subjective? A few months ago there was a good attampt at making it that way.
classic auto restoration; That one, you've got me Mikey. I would dig the way the Gullwing would look ariound Kathie, but I no have the means.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - The Audio Critic is now a free Web 'zine - Pat D 17:39:45 01/06/07 (222)
- Not much there -- seems like a few excerpts from a few articles -- is that all there is? - Richard BassNut Greene 14:44:06 01/12/07 (5)
- Re: Not much there -- seems like a few excerpts from a few articles -- is that all there is? - Pat D 11:21:11 01/13/07 (4)
- Geez Pat I knew I had to click on "More" to see the whole article! ... They were just not very substantial articles - Richard BassNut Greene 11:55:47 01/15/07 (3)
- What do you expect? - Atexanathome 16:02:46 01/19/07 (0)
- Well, yeah, but compared to what? (nt) - Pat D 05:40:11 01/17/07 (0)
- TAC's "not very substantial" articles should surprise no one. :) (nt) - kerr 12:27:16 01/15/07 (0)
- Re: The Audio Critic is now a free Web 'zine - Mickey Bob 10:27:20 01/12/07 (0)
- Re: The Audio Critic is now a free Web 'zine - hahax@verizon.net 20:11:12 01/09/07 (0)
- Re: The Audio Critic is now a free Web 'zine - Greg Ewing 13:14:04 01/09/07 (44)
- Re: The Audio Critic is now a free Web 'zine - kurt s 13:36:56 01/09/07 (43)
- Re: The Audio Critic is now a free Web 'zine - Greg Ewing 14:07:26 01/09/07 (42)
- Some more info on this... - kurt s 15:37:21 01/09/07 (0)
- Re: The Audio Critic is now a free Web 'zine - andy19191 14:22:31 01/09/07 (40)
- Yeah, Science, what you dun for me lately? - tomservo 11:30:19 01/12/07 (0)
- Re: The Audio Critic is now a free Web 'zine - thetubeguy1954 11:17:24 01/10/07 (1)
- Re: The Audio Critic is now a free Web 'zine - 3fd 14:09:53 01/12/07 (0)
- Re: The Audio Critic is now a free Web 'zine - morricab 01:15:15 01/10/07 (2)
- Re: The Audio Critic is now a free Web 'zine - andy19191 10:21:49 01/10/07 (1)
- Re: The Audio Critic is now a free Web 'zine - morricab 15:05:12 01/10/07 (0)
- Well now - E-Stat 18:07:00 01/09/07 (5)
- Re: Well now - andy19191 21:48:08 01/09/07 (4)
- You may be right after all... - E-Stat 17:38:39 01/10/07 (3)
- Re: You may be right after all... - andy19191 01:22:05 01/11/07 (2)
- Re: woofers - E-Stat 04:42:28 01/11/07 (0)
- Thanks for the non-answer to your generalization - E-Stat 04:37:28 01/11/07 (0)
- Re: The Audio Critic is now a free Web 'zine - kurt s 14:51:02 01/09/07 (27)
- Re: The Audio Critic is now a free Web 'zine - andy19191 15:51:57 01/09/07 (26)
- Re: The Audio Critic is now a free Web 'zine - morricab 01:28:11 01/10/07 (0)
- Re: The Audio Critic is now a free Web 'zine - andy19191 14:07:08 01/10/07 (2)
- Re: The Audio Critic is now a free Web 'zine - morricab 15:00:04 01/10/07 (1)
- Re: The Audio Critic is now a free Web 'zine - andy19191 01:03:24 01/11/07 (0)
- Wow! Thanks very much for those two - Sordidman 08:36:26 01/10/07 (0)
- "Opinions? Science does not have opinions." - kurt s 16:15:40 01/09/07 (15)
- Re: "Opinions? Science does not have opinions." - andy19191 23:31:10 01/09/07 (3)
- Re: "Opinions? Science does not have opinions." - kurt s 08:31:16 01/10/07 (2)
- Re: "Opinions? Science does not have opinions." - andy19191 01:36:15 01/11/07 (0)
- You figured out andy pretty quickly... - mkuller 20:40:16 01/10/07 (0)
- Re: "Opinions? Science does not have opinions." - bjh 20:19:54 01/09/07 (10)
- Re: "Opinions? Science does not have opinions." - andy19191 23:43:34 01/09/07 (9)
- Re: One contradictory valid observation will force an adopted model to be discarded. - jensw 13:52:18 01/10/07 (0)
- Re: "Opinions? Science does not have opinions." - Tom Schuman 04:37:02 01/10/07 (6)
- Re: "Opinions? Science does not have opinions." - andy19191 11:38:24 01/10/07 (5)
- Sounds like you're talking about 'scientism'...(nt) - mkuller 20:43:18 01/10/07 (0)
- How are we defining the term "science" here? - Thomas Martens 12:12:33 01/10/07 (3)
- Re: How are we defining the term "science" here? - andy19191 01:54:13 01/11/07 (0)
- Not to mention ... - bjh 12:52:30 01/10/07 (1)
- Let me add - jensw 00:58:03 01/11/07 (0)
- Amen! nt - bjh 04:08:57 01/10/07 (0)
- Science changes all the time - it's not static...(nt) - mkuller 15:58:13 01/09/07 (4)
- Re: Science changes all the time - it's not static...(nt) - andy19191 23:26:36 01/09/07 (3)
- That's as ludicrous a claim - E-Stat 18:12:38 01/10/07 (0)
- So science is all finished? LOL!...(nt) - mkuller 11:35:52 01/10/07 (0)
- Re: Science changes all the time - it's not static...(nt) - morricab 01:07:37 01/10/07 (0)
- "Audio for Dummies" - kurt s 13:01:37 01/08/07 (28)
- "...then maybe audio is not your hobby." Yeah, what's up with that? nt - clarkjohnsen 00:33:51 01/13/07 (0)
- Re: "Audio for Dummies" - Dan Banquer 06:50:55 01/09/07 (8)
- Re: "Audio for Dummies" - bjh 07:07:55 01/09/07 (7)
- Re: "Audio for Dummies" - Dan Banquer 07:18:47 01/09/07 (6)
- I find your reticence a little surprising! - bjh 08:35:00 01/09/07 (5)
- In case you haven't noticed - Dan Banquer 08:45:47 01/09/07 (4)
- Darn right! - E-Stat 18:35:45 01/09/07 (0)
- Sorry if I touched a nerve, I had not idea this was a topic you'd prefer not to discuss. - bjh 09:13:20 01/09/07 (2)
- Don't think the "hi-end" needs Dan's help. Its self-marginalizing. nt - Rick W 13:26:29 01/11/07 (1)
- Well as long as it makes him happy let's not deny him the pleasure. LOL nt - bjh 19:22:57 01/11/07 (0)
- Re: Must be pretty convenient to dismiss something based on a false premise - theaudiohobby 02:13:08 01/09/07 (12)
- Let me add something here - kurt s 10:25:34 01/09/07 (6)
- "And his mission is to childishly ridicule all that he does not understand." Bingo! nt - clarkjohnsen 00:31:37 01/13/07 (0)
- You didn't read that Infinity review very carefully - Atexanathome 16:54:07 01/09/07 (4)
- Okay, I plead guilty. - kurt s 18:49:06 01/09/07 (3)
- Re: Your are still missing the point - theaudiohobby 00:38:55 01/10/07 (2)
- Not completely missing the mark - kurt s 09:23:01 01/10/07 (1)
- Thanks Kurt - thetubeguy1954 12:07:10 01/10/07 (0)
- Really! - lancelot 08:36:41 01/09/07 (3)
- Re: You misundertood completely! - theaudiohobby 09:03:57 01/09/07 (2)
- Sensory perceptions and objective constraints... - mkuller 16:03:00 01/09/07 (1)
- Re: Sensory perceptions and objective constraints... - Ozzie 10:08:03 01/12/07 (0)
- Amongst audiophiles the believe that speakers - bjh 04:32:18 01/09/07 (0)
- Well said......nt - Alex Peychev 22:09:00 01/08/07 (0)
- Yep, you said what I was thinking better than I could. [nt] - Ted Smith 18:46:26 01/08/07 (0)
- Re: "Audio for Dummies" - Ozzie 15:31:10 01/08/07 (2)
- Re: "Audio for Dummies" - kurt s 19:56:24 01/08/07 (1)
- Re: "Audio for Dummies" - Ozzie 07:40:02 01/09/07 (0)
- Parasound Halo A 21: Quiz time ... did he or didn't he listen to the review unit? - bjh 07:58:36 01/08/07 (4)
- "And, yes, it sounds really good, too." - Pat D 17:09:45 01/09/07 (1)
- Re: "And, yes, it sounds really good, too." - john curl 17:17:55 01/12/07 (0)
- Dave Wilson and Parasound - TomLarson 16:29:52 01/09/07 (0)
- Channeling Julian Hirsch. * - mr grits 15:18:51 01/09/07 (0)
- Folks we shouldn't be hasty, it seems there *is* some entertainment value here! Read - bjh 07:44:09 01/08/07 (1)
- Do be hasty. - Ozzie 10:35:53 01/08/07 (0)
- Let's see if Aczel has the balls to put his Fourier review online (nt) - Rob Doorack 06:55:46 01/08/07 (50)
- Re: You indeed live in the past... - theaudiohobby 07:04:49 01/08/07 (49)
- I still have copies of the magazine in question... - mkuller 11:00:03 01/08/07 (0)
- A man's villainy lives on forever - Rob Doorack 08:30:52 01/08/07 (47)
- Re: A man's villainy lives on forever - AmanteDiMusica 10:36:22 01/08/07 (6)
- Re: A man's villainy lives on forever - Rob Doorack 19:48:03 01/08/07 (5)
- Re: A man's villainy lives on forever - AmanteDiMusica 20:38:49 01/08/07 (4)
- If you will email me... - mkuller 12:28:46 01/09/07 (3)
- Thank you so much Mkuller: got the fax - AmanteDiMusica 08:33:13 01/17/07 (0)
- I didn't get any fax yet.. - AmanteDiMusica 08:23:53 01/12/07 (0)
- Mkuller, you have mail! - AmanteDiMusica 10:12:39 01/10/07 (0)
- Re: A man's villainy lives on forever - theaudiohobby 09:25:09 01/08/07 (39)
- Now that is funny - Analog Scott 08:49:36 01/09/07 (38)
- Re: Nice trick question - theaudiohobby 09:13:40 01/09/07 (37)
- It's not a trick question - Analog Scott 12:50:21 01/09/07 (36)
- Re: It's not a trick question - theaudiohobby 00:49:22 01/10/07 (35)
- Re: It's not a trick question - Analog Scott 12:32:40 01/10/07 (34)
- Re: It's not a trick question - theaudiohobby 15:40:59 01/10/07 (33)
- Re: It's not a trick question - Analog Scott 22:47:22 01/10/07 (32)
- Re: Finally, asking the right questions.. - theaudiohobby 02:49:43 01/11/07 (31)
- who said anything about casual listening? - Analog Scott 20:42:42 01/11/07 (30)
- Re: Still jumping to the wrong conclusion - theaudiohobby 02:35:06 01/12/07 (29)
- Every argument you made was wrong. - Analog Scott 22:31:18 01/13/07 (28)
- Re: The fallacy.... - theaudiohobby 07:18:06 01/14/07 (27)
- thank you for finally admitting I was right - Analog Scott 08:41:19 01/14/07 (26)
- Re: Still going round in circles.... - theaudiohobby 10:20:26 01/14/07 (25)
- I agree that you are going around in circles. - Analog Scott 00:23:47 01/15/07 (24)
- Re: Sigh.. - theaudiohobby 01:29:23 01/15/07 (0)
- Wrong again - Analog Scott 09:17:07 01/15/07 (22)
- Re: Wrong again - theaudiohobby 09:21:20 01/15/07 (21)
- You are waiting for something i already did - Analog Scott 11:46:01 01/15/07 (20)
- Re: Okay... - theaudiohobby 16:47:19 01/15/07 (9)
- Dude you would be hard pressed to find anything less relevant without going outside of audio - Analog Scott 18:49:35 01/15/07 (8)
- Re: What Floyd said - theaudiohobby 04:37:00 01/16/07 (7)
- Thank you once again for proving my point. - Analog Scott 09:30:43 01/16/07 (6)
- Re: Talk about shifting your ground... - theaudiohobby 12:52:17 01/16/07 (5)
- Yes you guys like to talk about it even though it's nonsense - Analog Scott 13:51:04 01/16/07 (0)
- Excellent analysis! - Pat D 13:21:26 01/16/07 (3)
- Putting two noncontradicting statements of mine together and claiming thee is a contradtiction is good analysis? - Analog Scott 13:59:33 01/16/07 (0)
- Re: So true and oh so funny -nt - theaudiohobby 13:37:46 01/16/07 (1)
- Yes you have convinced each other. very impressive. - Analog Scott 14:01:08 01/16/07 (0)
- If you were actually clear about what you wanted to discuss, and didn't keep changing your ground, it would be easier! - Pat D 12:41:49 01/15/07 (9)
- Re: Thanks Pat D. - theaudiohobby 16:19:07 01/15/07 (3)
- LOL you need to work in packs. - Analog Scott 16:46:22 01/15/07 (2)
- Re: Sigh, why not just respond to the posts -nt - theaudiohobby 16:49:49 01/15/07 (1)
- Because the fifth time around it is clear that you won't get it any better than you did the previous four times - Analog Scott 18:53:47 01/15/07 (0)
- But I am clear and I don't change my ground. - Analog Scott 12:49:44 01/15/07 (4)
- ROTFLOL - Pat D 13:35:40 01/16/07 (3)
- Amazing - Analog Scott 14:16:53 01/16/07 (2)
- I said you misrepresented audiohobby's views, not your own. . . - Pat D 20:28:16 01/16/07 (1)
- . Yes you do love to make things up about me. - Analog Scott 22:22:58 01/16/07 (0)
- Like reviewing salt - it's all the same - okiemax 23:47:29 01/07/07 (8)
- Re: Like reviewing salt - it's all the same - theaudiohobby 01:46:42 01/08/07 (7)
- Amp price per pound - okiemax 11:32:40 01/08/07 (6)
- Sam Tellig recommended buying amps by the pound/dollar ratio - Atexanathome 15:52:52 01/08/07 (5)
- I believe Nelson Pass made a similar argument - J-PMatt@Comcast.Net 15:40:19 01/09/07 (3)
- Re: I believe Nelson Pass made a similar argument - okiemax 20:41:50 01/09/07 (2)
- Re: I believe Nelson Pass made a similar argument - J-PMatt@Comcast.Net 12:00:28 01/11/07 (1)
- Thanks(nt) - okiemax 18:53:34 01/11/07 (0)
- Re: Sam Tellig recommended buying amps by the pound/dollar ratio - TomLarson 17:18:12 01/08/07 (0)
- Still a rip-off! - kerr 21:58:38 01/07/07 (0)
- Re: The Audio Critic is now a free Web 'zine - srl1 13:35:59 01/07/07 (26)
- Re: The Audio Critic is now a free Web 'zine - Pat D 13:57:29 01/07/07 (25)
- Show them a magazine that tries to establish whether a product makes an audible difference - Analog Scott 14:05:40 01/07/07 (24)
- Reviews by people.... - mkuller 17:54:58 01/07/07 (21)
- Reviews by people who at least are willing to put it on the line. - Ozzie 19:51:18 01/07/07 (20)
- Good question... - mkuller 10:38:31 01/08/07 (17)
- And... - mkuller 10:53:14 01/08/07 (16)
- Did you read the comparo test in Car and Driver - E-Stat 18:57:25 01/09/07 (1)
- The Crown amp looks good on paper, too...(nt) - mkuller 20:56:33 01/09/07 (0)
- Re: And... - Ozzie 11:28:32 01/08/07 (13)
- Proof of what? - mkuller 11:46:03 01/08/07 (12)
- Re: Proof of what? - Ozzie 13:13:28 01/08/07 (10)
- Oh please, give me a break... - mkuller 19:33:03 01/08/07 (6)
- here's a break... - Ozzie 10:58:12 01/09/07 (2)
- Re: here's a break... - bjh 11:34:35 01/09/07 (1)
- Ghost writting. - Ozzie 11:08:48 01/10/07 (0)
- Re: Oh please, give me a break... - theaudiohobby 03:40:22 01/09/07 (2)
- Bogus claims... - mkuller 11:38:16 01/09/07 (1)
- Re: Bogus claims... - Ozzie 14:49:22 01/11/07 (0)
- WOW! Here were have the weiner who likes to whine about snobbery in the hobby giving us - bjh 13:54:13 01/08/07 (2)
- The only snob here is you, bj... - Ozzie 15:57:16 01/08/07 (1)
- Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn. nt - bjh 16:39:37 01/08/07 (0)
- Opps ... you've set yourself up the dreaded ... - bjh 12:13:58 01/08/07 (0)
- Stand back boys!... He's gonna blow! - bjh 20:02:01 01/07/07 (1)
- Have you replaced those low rez speakers yet bjh? - Ozzie 10:31:32 01/08/07 (0)
- Question already anticipated and answered--by The Audio Critic. Read the link I gave!!! (nt) - Pat D 14:14:45 01/07/07 (1)
- What link? I don't see any link nt - Analog Scott 18:34:31 01/07/07 (0)
- Now you get EXACTLY what you've paid for...(nt) - mkuller 11:16:58 01/07/07 (1)
- Re: Now you get EXACTLY what you've paid for...(nt) - TomLarson 11:31:48 01/08/07 (0)
- 10 Biggest lies in Audio, huh? - WinthorpeIII 07:13:36 01/07/07 (3)
- Oh, that was always free--one of the Sample Articles. - Pat D 07:22:19 01/07/07 (2)
- That's like asking: - Dave Pogue 07:31:22 01/07/07 (1)
- :) [nt] - Ted Smith 17:22:10 01/07/07 (0)
- Oh, Joy! - cjfrbw 23:14:19 01/06/07 (0)
- By George, some things really ARE worth their asking price! (nt) - Dave Pogue 19:41:25 01/06/07 (37)
- You can get much of Stereophile and S & V on line free, too. (nt) - Pat D 20:44:33 01/06/07 (36)
- Yup. Watch out for arguments from price of pub because everything is cheap or free these days nt - TomLarson 10:11:17 01/09/07 (0)
- big quality difference - hifitommy 00:23:25 01/07/07 (34)
- Re: big quality difference - Ozzie 13:21:34 01/07/07 (1)
- Re: big quality difference - bjh 14:27:45 01/07/07 (0)
- Found this amusing tid-bit from a "review" on his site ... - bjh 09:41:42 01/07/07 (27)
- Right... - mkuller 11:15:06 01/07/07 (26)
- Re: Right... - thetubeguy1954 13:35:23 01/10/07 (4)
- Re: Sarcasm obviously... - theaudiohobby 09:05:00 01/12/07 (3)
- Re: Sarcasm obviously... - thetubeguy1954 06:51:38 01/15/07 (2)
- Re: Sarcasm obviously... - theaudiohobby 09:18:20 01/15/07 (1)
- Re: Sarcasm obviously... - thetubeguy1954 10:28:16 01/17/07 (0)
- Re: Right... - TomLarson 10:10:00 01/09/07 (0)
- Re: Right... - tomservo 13:28:22 01/07/07 (4)
- "I think what he is getting at..." Huh? Why not let the guy's words speak for themselves? Read agian ... - bjh 14:14:27 01/07/07 (3)
- Re: "I think what he is getting at..." Huh? Why not let the guy's words speak for themselves? Read agian ... - TomLarson 11:37:17 01/09/07 (2)
- Just imagine! - bjh 11:56:12 01/09/07 (1)
- Re: Just imagine! - TomLarson 16:13:32 01/09/07 (0)
- Re: Right... - Pat D 11:52:50 01/07/07 (14)
- Pat Why Do You Do This? - thetubeguy1954 14:30:06 01/10/07 (10)
- Aczel talked measurement, mkuller talked parts. - Pat D 20:06:49 01/10/07 (9)
- Re: Aczel talked measurement, mkuller talked parts. - thetubeguy1954 10:23:23 01/11/07 (8)
- Re: Aczel talked measurement, mkuller talked parts. - Pat D 14:53:43 01/11/07 (7)
- Re: Aczel talked measurement, mkuller talked parts. - thetubeguy1954 05:51:51 01/12/07 (6)
- Re: Aczel talked measurement, mkuller talked parts. - Pat D 07:36:01 01/12/07 (5)
- Re: Aczel talked measurement, mkuller talked parts. - thetubeguy1954 11:26:53 01/12/07 (4)
- Well, if you give up on the discussion, you won't learn anything. - Pat D 09:25:26 01/13/07 (0)
- Re: Aczel talked measurement, mkuller talked parts. - kerr 12:07:05 01/12/07 (2)
- Re: Aczel talked measurement, mkuller talked parts. - Pat D 09:26:48 01/13/07 (1)
- Re: Aczel talked measurement, mkuller talked parts. - kerr 12:07:50 01/13/07 (0)
- So pick two amps... - mkuller 13:17:15 01/07/07 (2)
- Ahh, changing your ground, I see. - Pat D 13:46:19 01/07/07 (1)
- Re: Ahh, changing your ground, I see. - TomLarson 17:05:10 01/09/07 (0)
- Re:True - theaudiohobby 04:10:43 01/07/07 (3)
- you have made YOUR choice - hifitommy 10:12:42 01/07/07 (2)
- "i have NEVER seen TAC quoted as an authority"--is that what you're looking for? - Pat D 12:29:21 01/07/07 (1)
- Re: "i have NEVER seen TAC quoted as an authority"--is that what you're looking for? - theaudiohobby 19:49:27 01/07/07 (0)
Follow Ups
- Re: And... - Ozzie 11:28:32 01/08/07 (13)
- Proof of what? - mkuller 11:46:03 01/08/07 (12)
- Re: Proof of what? - Ozzie 13:13:28 01/08/07 (10)
- Oh please, give me a break... - mkuller 19:33:03 01/08/07 (6)
- here's a break... - Ozzie 10:58:12 01/09/07 (2)
- Re: here's a break... - bjh 11:34:35 01/09/07 (1)
- Ghost writting. - Ozzie 11:08:48 01/10/07 (0)
- Re: Oh please, give me a break... - theaudiohobby 03:40:22 01/09/07 (2)
- Bogus claims... - mkuller 11:38:16 01/09/07 (1)
- Re: Bogus claims... - Ozzie 14:49:22 01/11/07 (0)
- WOW! Here were have the weiner who likes to whine about snobbery in the hobby giving us - bjh 13:54:13 01/08/07 (2)
- The only snob here is you, bj... - Ozzie 15:57:16 01/08/07 (1)
- Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn. nt - bjh 16:39:37 01/08/07 (0)
- Opps ... you've set yourself up the dreaded ... - bjh 12:13:58 01/08/07 (0)