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In Reply to: Have quite a number of 'obsolete' SACDs... posted by Ivan303 on December 15, 2017 at 07:38:58:
IMO SACD have a universally smoothed over HF response. Smothering the air around the performance. Sure it sounds 'clean' but that also means it is sonically dead with no 'air'.
I find CD sound better. (I am a total HF nut/fan)
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Raise your hands... - mkuller 08:22:15 12/13/17 (103)
- Yes to the first - josh358 20:20:37 01/01/18 (0)
- What is MQA??? - pffft? 13:25:09 12/15/17 (1)
- +1...(nt) - mkuller 13:54:00 12/15/17 (0)
- RE: Raise your hands... - Van der Putnam 18:25:25 12/14/17 (0)
- Hands Up! So, shoot me - Bruce from DC 13:52:31 12/14/17 (5)
- OK, shot. :-) - josh358 20:41:24 01/01/18 (0)
- He's been out of bullets for years... - regmac 15:18:52 12/14/17 (3)
- Have quite a number of 'obsolete' SACDs... - Ivan303 07:38:58 12/15/17 (1)
- My listening to SACD I like CD better. SACD have a failed HF frequency response.. all 'smoothed over' and not - pffft? 14:04:54 12/15/17 (0)
- Yeah, Dolby B was a godsend - Bruce from DC 15:44:47 12/14/17 (0)
- Consolidation of replies, from those posting a subjective opinion - Beetlemania 12:20:46 12/14/17 (24)
- Gee...where are the ringing endorsements? I guess... - regmac 12:53:55 12/14/17 (23)
- Why do you care? - mkuller 14:45:03 12/14/17 (22)
- RE: Why do you care? - audiophilect 18:33:35 12/14/17 (0)
- Why do you care that I care? - regmac 15:25:12 12/14/17 (20)
- Why do you care that I care? - mkuller 16:00:25 12/14/17 (19)
- RE: Why do you care that I care? - regmac 16:07:49 12/14/17 (18)
- RE: Why do you care that I care? - stehno 18:40:15 12/15/17 (17)
- RE: Why do you care that I care? - John Atkinson 11:04:27 12/16/17 (1)
- RE: Why do you care that I care? - stehno 01:28:42 12/17/17 (0)
- Nope... - mkuller 10:25:51 12/16/17 (14)
- RE: Nope... - stehno 10:34:57 12/17/17 (13)
- Nope... - mkuller 11:42:53 12/17/17 (12)
- RE: Nope... - stehno 17:29:53 12/17/17 (10)
- Funny, isn't it - josh358 20:51:40 01/01/18 (0)
- I can't help but wonder ... - DAP 19:42:00 12/17/17 (0)
- Of course you haven't heard it... - mkuller 19:05:33 12/17/17 (7)
- RE: Of course you haven't heard it... - Inmate51 14:51:00 12/18/17 (6)
- RE: Of course you haven't heard it... - stehno 23:45:18 12/18/17 (3)
- RE: Of course you haven't heard it... - Inmate51 14:59:05 12/19/17 (2)
- RE: Of course you haven't heard it... - stehno 20:09:27 12/20/17 (1)
- RE: Of course you haven't heard it... - Inmate51 17:39:04 01/01/18 (0)
- "Our products should forever change any industry ..." - DAP 16:53:36 12/18/17 (0)
- Hyperbole? - mkuller 15:53:53 12/18/17 (0)
- you have no clue - DAP 15:12:07 12/17/17 (0)
- Yes - Dave_K 04:20:21 12/14/17 (0)
- RE: Raise your hands... - hahax@verizon.net 20:27:35 12/13/17 (0)
- RE: Raise your hands... - Krav Maga 17:08:19 12/13/17 (1)
- "Just the facts, ma'am"...(nt) - mkuller 20:40:04 12/13/17 (0)
- More to the point.... - regmac 12:38:25 12/13/17 (48)
- Why a quantum improvement? Those of us in the hobby often pay substantial amountsfor small improvements. nt - viridian 13:14:25 12/13/17 (19)
- RE: Why a quantum improvement? Those of us in the hobby often pay substantial amountsfor small improvements. nt - regmac 13:56:40 12/13/17 (11)
- Kindly be less reactive and answer a genuine concern... - viridian 14:16:48 12/13/17 (10)
- RE: Kindly be less reactive and answer a genuine concern... - regmac 14:42:33 12/13/17 (9)
- AA is aptly named... - mkuller 15:41:57 12/13/17 (0)
- Sorry Reg, I was apparently not clear.... - viridian 15:05:02 12/13/17 (7)
- RE: Sorry Reg, I was apparently not clear.... - stehno 22:34:32 12/13/17 (0)
- RE: Sorry Reg, I was apparently not clear.... - regmac 15:28:35 12/13/17 (3)
- Im clear on your point and have read, and posted some disagreements with... - viridian 15:58:39 12/13/17 (2)
- RE: Im clear on your point and have read, and posted some disagreements with... - regmac 16:26:26 12/13/17 (1)
- Thank you for the thoughtful analysis... - viridian 17:01:59 12/13/17 (0)
- RE: would not a simply audible improvement make it worth while from a SQ perspective? - Krav Maga 15:24:23 12/13/17 (1)
- Thank you! Much appreciated, and a great point, there are many other issues at play beyond SQ. nt - viridian 15:28:20 12/13/17 (0)
- MQA is not touted by JA and RH as a "small improvement". - Rick W 13:26:40 12/13/17 (6)
- So Rick, to give an example..... - viridian 14:12:24 12/13/17 (5)
- Hmm, kinda doubt JA and RH would appreciate being equated with car salesmen :-) - Rick W 14:50:26 12/13/17 (3)
- I do think that they have vested interests, but my question was... - viridian 15:21:23 12/13/17 (2)
- RE: I do think that they have vested interests, but my question was... - Bruce from DC 15:13:42 12/14/17 (1)
- RE: I do think that they have vested interests, but my question was... - John Atkinson 04:17:14 12/16/17 (0)
- Exactly...(nt) - mkuller 14:32:59 12/13/17 (0)
- A different point entirely... - mkuller 13:12:42 12/13/17 (27)
- What is *your* point? - Rick W 14:14:26 12/13/17 (22)
- What is *your* point? - mkuller 14:35:49 12/13/17 (21)
- Did you need to hear MP3 to know you don't want it? - Dave_K 04:56:12 12/14/17 (19)
- Yes I do... - mkuller 10:27:27 12/14/17 (13)
- If you haven't actually heard it, how can you have an opinion about it? - Dave_K 13:51:52 12/14/17 (1)
- It's one thing to reject it.... - mkuller 14:53:18 12/14/17 (0)
- RE: I'm not interested in other people's opinions - I want to hear it for myself. - Krav Maga 11:47:48 12/14/17 (10)
- As I've said numerous times here... - mkuller 14:02:12 12/14/17 (9)
- RE: As I've said numerous times here... - stehno 22:23:41 12/14/17 (1)
- Mikey's hero worship.... - regmac 05:23:44 12/15/17 (0)
- RE: As I've said numerous times here... - audiophilect 14:28:56 12/14/17 (6)
- How about "as good", but, - mkuller 14:41:08 12/14/17 (5)
- RE: How about "as good", but, - audiophilect 18:01:00 12/14/17 (1)
- Another analogy - the tube buffer - Dave_K 07:16:01 12/15/17 (0)
- RE: How about "as good", but, - regmac 15:28:43 12/14/17 (2)
- RE: How about "as good", but, - mkuller 16:03:42 12/14/17 (1)
- RE: How about "as good", but, - regmac 16:21:37 12/14/17 (0)
- RE: Did you need to hear MP3 to know you don't want it? - audiophilect 10:21:25 12/14/17 (1)
- Exactly - Dave_K 14:01:18 12/14/17 (0)
- Additionally . . . - Beetlemania 07:21:51 12/14/17 (1)
- Good point (nt) - Dave_K 13:52:38 12/14/17 (0)
- RE: Did you need to hear MP3 to know you don't want it? - TubeDriver 06:42:49 12/14/17 (0)
- Can't disagree with that. nt - Rick W 14:53:01 12/13/17 (0)
- The salient point, mikey, given the all-too-familiar hype from two high-profile reviewers. My... - regmac 13:54:11 12/13/17 (3)
- So, buttercup... - mkuller 14:21:27 12/13/17 (2)
- RE: So, buttercup... - regmac 14:36:31 12/13/17 (1)
- RE: Gewürztraminer - Krav Maga 14:56:56 12/13/17 (0)
- Have done it all... - Ivan303 11:37:36 12/13/17 (0)
- RE: Raise your hands... - bigshow 11:24:23 12/13/17 (0)
- RE: Raise your hands... - G Squared 09:53:26 12/13/17 (0)
- AND, if you have, WHERE did you get it/them? - oldmkvi 09:12:58 12/13/17 (0)
- RE: Raise your hands... - TubeDriver 08:53:18 12/13/17 (2)
- non-MQA DACs. What's the point of that? nt - oldmkvi 09:14:15 12/13/17 (1)
- RE: non-MQA DACs. What's the point of that? nt - ahendler 21:13:14 12/13/17 (0)
- RE: Raise your hands... - rt66indierock 08:52:52 12/13/17 (0)
- Raised - E-Stat 08:39:06 12/13/17 (6)
- How can you judge MQA without an MQA Dac?? - oldmkvi 09:18:06 12/13/17 (5)
- RE: How can you judge MQA without an MQA Dac?? - ahendler 21:15:21 12/13/17 (0)
- RE: How can you judge MQA without an MQA Dac?? - rt66indierock 19:36:37 12/13/17 (0)
- The Tidal PC application - E-Stat 09:35:39 12/13/17 (2)
- RE: The Tidal PC application - ahendler 21:18:11 12/13/17 (1)
- Or... - E-Stat 22:34:35 12/13/17 (0)
Follow Ups
- My listening to SACD I like CD better. SACD have a failed HF frequency response.. all 'smoothed over' and not - pffft? 14:04:54 12/15/17 (0)