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In Reply to: A straight answer: DBT's are strong evidence not all components sound different & most manufacturers don't like that posted by Richard BassNut Greene on June 9, 2006 at 10:14:01:
Give the same recipe to half a dozen different cooks and you get 6 different tasting dishes. Oh yes, there will be a basic similarity, but they will be different.The same applies to electronics and every aspect of audio. Amps seem to converge in their sound quality as prices go up, but do speakers? If perfect frequency response and phasing, and timing were the goal of every speaker designer, one would think that at a certain price point, say at $25K, for example, there would be a convergence in sound. That is not the case. Even at $100K there are large differences in sound, and readily apparent ones at that.
What does this mean? I would submit that it is one of several things: 1. listeners do not recognize 'natural and accurate' sound; 2, listeners simply do not care; 3. manufacturers are not seeking 'natural and accurate.' The fourth option would be that there is no such thing as a 'natural and accurate' sounding speaker system. I would like to believe that is not true, though.
Now if most speaker manufacturers are not seeking 'musical truth', how does one expect to hear subtlety from a wire change in his system? If one simply uses price as a guide, you may end up comparing apples to apples, as I have seen cheap coax, and some very expensive ones. That would be akin to comparing apples to apples, and yeah I know there is a difference between a Golden Delicious and a Granny Smith. There would be greater differences in comparing a twin lead to a coax.
For wires, if you understand how the LCR parameters affect sound, check out Kimber's thick product brochure where those specs are given for every model in their line up. Makes for interesting reading, at least for me, and it shows that there is science and empirical testing involved.
If you have a flawed speaker design, though, evaluating such subtlety would be akin to drowning your food with Tabasco (which I like, BTW), and then trying to compare the use of sea salt to regular salt in your dishes. Much of the subtlety, which is an integral part of all music, may be washed out by the predominating flavor.
'The reality can hurt sometimes,' you once stated. That statement can also apply to everyone, and be careful as it may apply to your own pronouncements.
Stu
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Follow Ups
- Why shouldn't there be differences? - unclestu52 14:44:07 06/10/06 (8)
- Yes, but can humans actually hear every difference? - Caymus 15:16:34 06/11/06 (1)
- Could you please - unclestu52 20:13:18 06/11/06 (0)
- People willing to experiment find they have a much harder time hearing differences than expected - Richard BassNut Greene 13:24:39 06/11/06 (5)
- Actually I do a lot of experimentation. - unclestu52 20:54:11 06/11/06 (4)
- Are you forgetting the "Wanting to Hear Differences Bias"? - Richard BassNut Greene 10:15:44 06/13/06 (3)
- What if you didn't want to hear a difference? - unclestu52 13:44:22 06/13/06 (2)
- I've never met anyone who did not want to hear a difference - Richard BassNut Greene 09:23:38 06/14/06 (1)
- Your position has been duly noted (NT) - unclestu52 10:46:16 06/14/06 (0)