In Reply to: Re: You have to have some understanding of the measurements . . . posted by Pat D on February 3, 2007 at 05:34:46:
The 63 and the 57 are irrelevant.The 989 is what is now sold and that speaker is what I was talking about.
You seem to imply that the greatest difficulty in the world is reading a frequency response graph. You say that I totally have no clue as to what is going on yet it is simply a loudness at a given frequency graph -- far less difficult than most charts and graphs I have created and read. DB is level - frequency is how load.
I have said nothing about most speakers that have not been said or implied by people like John Atkinson himself. Though he has been careless with other speakers and implied things incorrectly.
Scientific measurements if it is going to be used need to DIRECTLY speak to that which is initially stated and not "interpreted" using a bunch of weasal words as to "well this measurement stinks but it's a big speaker and we can't do big speakers accurately" Which begs the question that "if you can't measure big speakers properly why the hell are you doing them?" Do it correctly or don't bother. Ahh to let amateur nobodies on forums "interpret" if they're any good and because it helps sell magazines.
The measurements provided in Stereophile just looking at frequency implies that you would get more bass than is really evident in listening. Granted in room at distance that will balance down but then so does treble at distance which he should have mentioned and did not. Well he kind of did mentioning a big room would make them too mellow.
And lastly if the magazines online ones too, are going to do measurements they oughta be completely useful in a self-contained way. Not relying on customers to get measurements from seven different publications and to "interpret" what it might be like when listening. And if "you have to listen to really know" anyway - which all those publications end up directly stating or implying then exactly what use directly that you can directly prove are they going to give you?
I can see some general uses -- is the speaker efficient enough to be driven by a SET amp. Does the speaker adequately cover a frequency response? How loud will it play. Is the speaker a head in the vice speaker or not. some of the other ones I thought about adding I do not because when listening they do not usually directly indicate their truths in room.
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- Re: You have to have some understanding of the measurements . . . - RGA 05:55:25 02/03/07 (4)
- Re: You have to have some understanding of the measurements . . . - Pat D 07:15:47 02/03/07 (3)
- Re: You have to have some understanding of the measurements . . . - RGA 08:17:48 02/03/07 (2)
- Re: You have to have some understanding of the measurements . . . - Pat D 09:14:42 02/03/07 (1)
- Re: You have to have some understanding of the measurements . . . - RGA 17:18:26 02/03/07 (0)