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In Reply to: Hope you're not offended posted by usethetrackingforce on January 3, 2007 at 13:30:59:
"But don't you find it strange that some of the heavy drumming was always done in the dark? It raised suspicions of faked performance."Maybe you need to see the original DVD.... It's not totally dark, but "dimmed".... Although I admit wondering what Moran was actually doing. The cymbals on the drum kit were moving. That I will say....
I think you should have been able to see the stuff going on at the end, even though it was "dark".
"I also found out that a lot of bands there perform concerts by playing a tape and faking it."
I encountered this with Mecano. Only Ana Torroja and the drummer were performing, and the guitarists were merely pretending to play their instruments (link). Given the reputation, it was somewhat of a letdown. I did not know this was a common thing, however.
"Another edit was a double cymbal dubbed over the middle of a complex rhythm sequence. The edit job was nice, but it was too fishy to think it was percussinve wizardry. The diversion from the pattern would have benn too much to then return to it in perfect stride. And the camera shot just doesn't suddenly jump to that and out again in actual performance. Too obvious."
I think it's close to the end of the song. I guess I'll look at the DVD. You may have a point here. Because I thought that pattern alone was difficult enough. Maybe that made it a little too much.
"I'm also sure the bassline was also faked using a sequencer. That was just too complex, rhythmicly tricky, and precise to think it was the bass player actually playing it. Made even further obvious seeing the bass player just standing there with what looked like a five string fretless. Reminded me of the scenes from the old Partridge Family TV series."
Once again, I'll have to look at the DVD. Uriel Natenzon is a fabulous bassist. He doesn't move around a lot like some musicians. I'm almost certain he's playing it.
"The real clincher was listening to a different live performance on Rhapsody. Sounded like a totally different band. Sloppy and out of tune. None of the superhuman musical feats in the video."
If it's the performance I'm thinking of, it took place roughly 12 years earlier. Syntek wasn't nearly as refined as he is now. It was also Syntek's original drummer. Very similar to the original studio version.
"On the surface it was impressive. I know you like Sintek, and for a latin band, it is still quite good. But you got carried away believing some obscure latin band really had musicianship comparable to Dream Theater."
If I hinted or implied such musicianship, sorry about that. (It's amazing how much gets lost on a compressed video relative to seeing a similar performance in the flesh.) You did raise some interesting issues. If I see anything definitive off the DVD, I'll follow up on this. Otherwise I'll just have to live with the seed of doubt as well.
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- Nah.... Not Offended.... - Todd Krieger 16:49:25 01/03/07 (1)
- Re: Nah.... Not Offended.... - usethetrackingforce 19:38:15 01/03/07 (0)
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