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Good/bad news :-))

I have good news for you, and perhaps (wife-determined) bad news. Keep what you like and improve what you miss. And then some.

By and large, I have had a similar experience with my magwire cables, which I love. My runs are 10ft. Initially, I used twin 26ga runs/terminal. I usually bi-amp. However, what I am about to say below is ALL in a similar xover configuration to yours. That is, current xover design 1st/1st order at 2.2mH lows and 12uF tweeter.

I just finished a 2 week long re-evaluation of my magwire sets as I tried to improve my best set, MultiMag842T. This one beat quite a few premium branded cables. Yet, it has two "relative disadvantages":

1. It kind of enslaved me to my friends. Once they heard and compared MultiMag842T, they were hooked -- so, 3 friends asked me to make them sets. MM842T is a little hard to put together and it was getting me too tied up. Therefore, I stopped showing off...

2. Then, there's ONE thing I thought that the MultiMag842T ought to do, and was not doing. That was to match 12ga electrical solid copper wire in its ability to deliver more bass. While MM842T's is certainly excellent, I could use a little more of that bass juice that the (otherwise awful-sounding) 12ga solid wire delivers to my MMGs.

So, for 2 weeks I re-heard, reconfigured, and even measured my old 26ga magwire favorites and, for the first time, 30ga singles (made long ago but never rally used) vs the MM842T. All in 10ft long pairs.

It may have paid off. This weekend, I believe I have arrived at the right formula that keeps all the virtues of MM842T but adds far better bass (and a few extras). If this keeps doing as well as it has so far, I'll publish more details. For now:

a.) MultiMag842T is simply 8 lengths of 22ga, 4 lengths of 26ga and 2 lengths of 30ga from the Radio Shack magwire spools. These are bundled with no braiding and wrapped in Teflon tape (the "T"). This wrapping is what takes so long to do.

b.) The "new" MultiMag is NOT all new. It is a pair of MultiMag842T from my bi-amp sets, which I transformed into MultiMag842R. The R stands for ribbon. The same wires but laid parallel on a 2" wide ribbon.

Both display exactly the same frequency response when measured. They also share the same top-end clarity and air. At the bottom, however, bass presence and dynamics are day and night. The ribbon configuration clearly wins here. With the model "T", I live happily without a subwoofer if I have a beefy power amp driving. With the model "R", I can live happy with no subwoofer on more music...even with weaker power amplification.

An unexpected bonus is that while MM842T's impressive imaging and staging remains, MM842R makes imaging elements more solid.

The other great thing is that the "R" model is far easier to build than the "T" model.

So far, I have spent about 18 hours listening to my MMGs with this new "R" set. I also spent 2 hours, for initial impressions, with the MM842R hooked up to a set of B&W 802D at a friend's. Things are looking good, very good.

If this pans out and you want to try it, the problem could be that your wife may not like the idea of 2" wide ribbons...you can always paint flowers on them :-))




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