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In Reply to: I don't know what Stereophile is doing with their measurement scheme posted by Sordidman on September 21, 2006 at 10:00:48:
...the jitter measurements JA provides are valid (although they include phase noise and power supply noise as well, not jitter only) but the result depends on the built/design quality of the ENTIRE player.If you take a digital scope and measure the jitter coming directly from the transport, it will be a completely different story.
Regards,
Alex
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Comparison of various transports - Geforce 21:47:16 09/19/06 (123)
- Computer based playback vs VRDS-NEO - SoftwireEngineer 16:20:55 09/21/06 (6)
- Re: Computer based playback vs VRDS-NEO - Charles Hansen 16:34:56 09/21/06 (5)
- Re: Computer based playback vs VRDS-NEO - Retsel 11:26:33 09/22/06 (2)
- Re: Computer based playback vs VRDS-NEO - Charles Hansen 12:04:54 09/22/06 (1)
- I have heard the difference - Sordidman 15:31:35 09/22/06 (0)
- Re: Computer based playback vs VRDS-NEO - prad 23:49:18 09/21/06 (1)
- Read about jitter [nt] - Ted Smith 13:49:23 09/22/06 (0)
- Re: Comparison of various transports - Lowrider 00:01:07 09/21/06 (0)
- Why was one entire branch of this thread deleted? - Charles Hansen 20:59:14 09/20/06 (12)
- I didn't delete anything... - Chris Garrett 18:36:05 09/21/06 (0)
- Probably because... - racerguy 05:23:48 09/21/06 (2)
- OK, now I understand... - Chris Garrett 18:41:32 09/21/06 (1)
- its not prod or prawn. its prad. n i thot i was the only 1 wif spelling impediment. (nt) - prad 19:59:12 09/21/06 (0)
- Re: Why was one entire branch of this thread deleted? - Alex Peychev 02:02:38 09/21/06 (5)
- it's because jeme has been banned . . . . - lazarus28 09:08:05 09/21/06 (4)
- Re: it's because jeme has been banned . . . . - prad 21:26:21 09/21/06 (1)
- your impediment - tunenut 17:31:04 09/24/06 (1)
- Thank you, as least somebody understands... - Chris Garrett 18:49:07 09/21/06 (1)
- Sorry folks, I didn't notice. - robert young 19:03:03 09/21/06 (0)
- Seems to be a lot of that happening here lately! (nt) - JCS 01:31:55 09/21/06 (0)
- simply becos tolerance is simply lacking in some places (nt) - prad 21:59:13 09/20/06 (1)
- This reminds me of... - racerguy 16:31:13 09/20/06 (2)
- Normally, I would think that that would be a great analogy - Sordidman 16:36:45 09/20/06 (1)
- See below (nt) - racerguy 16:44:03 09/20/06 (0)
- Re: Comparison of various transports - not definitive... - Retsel 12:25:36 09/20/06 (97)
- When the build quality jibes with the sound quality - Sordidman 13:37:07 09/20/06 (96)
- Hey, I'm just happy that you wrote "jibes" instead of "jives!" - bublitchki 01:04:45 09/23/06 (0)
- Re: When the build quality jibes with the sound quality - Retsel 12:10:02 09/21/06 (3)
- I am not sure if Esoteric makes it's new transport - Sordidman 12:36:37 09/21/06 (2)
- Re: I am not sure if Esoteric makes it's new transport - Retsel 14:00:33 09/21/06 (1)
- I see your point: but I didn't say that it was "beefier" - Sordidman 16:07:55 09/21/06 (0)
- Re: When the build quality jibes with the sound quality - racerguy 16:43:27 09/20/06 (90)
- Re: When the build quality jibes with the sound quality - Alex Peychev 02:18:18 09/21/06 (0)
- That is truly sad ... - Christine Tham 18:15:03 09/20/06 (88)
- OMG Christine!!! - Alex Peychev 01:39:37 09/21/06 (26)
- There is no "bit clock" coming out of the VRDS Neo - Charles Hansen 07:12:57 09/21/06 (21)
- Re: There is no "bit clock" coming out of the VRDS Neo - Alex Peychev 09:50:19 09/21/06 (20)
- Re: There is no "bit clock" coming out of the VRDS Neo - Charles Hansen 10:02:46 09/21/06 (14)
- Re: There is no "bit clock" coming out of the VRDS Neo - Alex Peychev 10:25:06 09/21/06 (13)
- Re: There is no "bit clock" coming out of the VRDS Neo - Charles Hansen 10:56:08 09/21/06 (12)
- Re: There is no "bit clock" coming out of the VRDS Neo - Alex Peychev 11:49:57 09/21/06 (11)
- Alex, two questions... - Allen Wright 14:45:16 09/21/06 (3)
- Re: Alex, two questions... - Alex Peychev 15:46:18 09/21/06 (2)
- Disagree - Charles Hansen 16:29:42 09/21/06 (1)
- Re: Disagree - Alex Peychev 16:41:10 09/21/06 (0)
- Re: There is no "bit clock" coming out of the VRDS Neo - Charles Hansen 12:47:49 09/21/06 (6)
- Re: There is no "bit clock" coming out of the VRDS Neo - Alex Peychev 15:23:35 09/21/06 (1)
- Re: There is no "bit clock" coming out of the VRDS Neo - Charles Hansen 16:26:18 09/21/06 (0)
- Re: clock path to the chips - Retsel 14:47:35 09/21/06 (3)
- Re: clock path to the chips - Alex Peychev 16:35:14 09/21/06 (2)
- Re: Difference that the transport makes - Retsel 11:05:57 09/22/06 (0)
- Re: clock path to the chips - Charles Hansen 19:32:22 09/21/06 (0)
- I don't know what Stereophile is doing with their measurement scheme - Sordidman 10:00:48 09/21/06 (4)
- Exactly - Charles Hansen 10:46:18 09/21/06 (2)
- Well yes and no...... - Alex Peychev 11:23:05 09/21/06 (1)
- Re: Well yes and no...... - Charles Hansen 12:08:06 09/21/06 (0)
- That is correct...... - Alex Peychev 10:12:12 09/21/06 (0)
- Re: OMG Christine!!! - racerguy 05:19:38 09/21/06 (3)
- Re: OMG Christine!!! - Alex Peychev 10:05:17 09/21/06 (2)
- Re: OMG Christine!!! - racerguy 16:45:15 09/21/06 (1)
- Re: OMG Christine!!! - Alex Peychev 18:33:11 09/21/06 (0)
- You forgot the SCD-1 at 146.8 ps(1999)nt - Guss2 18:37:12 09/20/06 (1)
- Kick ass baby.... - Chris Garrett 02:45:23 09/21/06 (0)
- A little knowledge is a dangerous thing - Charles Hansen 18:32:35 09/20/06 (56)
- A plague on both your houses - Pacman 10:56:08 09/21/06 (5)
- It's OK that the original subject has been changed, but... - Sordidman 12:40:57 09/21/06 (4)
- Your correct but... - Pacman 14:26:08 09/21/06 (3)
- Re: Your correct but... - Christine Tham 02:44:12 09/22/06 (2)
- Oh, really? - Charles Hansen 06:35:27 09/22/06 (1)
- See my other reply - Christine Tham 15:37:26 09/22/06 (0)
- Completely agree - Christine Tham 18:44:04 09/20/06 (49)
- Your lack of reading comprehension is truly astounding - Charles Hansen 19:09:37 09/20/06 (48)
- See racerguy's post - Christine Tham 20:23:52 09/20/06 (35)
- And now it's time for me to pick on YOU - racerguy 20:46:55 09/20/06 (28)
- Re: And now it's time for me to pick on YOU - Christine Tham 21:05:11 09/20/06 (27)
- Thanks, but you still didn't address the issue - racerguy 05:34:59 09/21/06 (1)
- Re: Thanks, but you still didn't address the issue - Christine Tham 22:48:39 09/21/06 (0)
- Once again you are showing your lack of knowledge - Charles Hansen 21:29:53 09/20/06 (24)
- Re: Once again you are showing your lack of knowledge - Christine Tham 21:53:30 09/20/06 (23)
- Don't be coy, give us an example - Charles Hansen 22:01:00 09/20/06 (22)
- Well, I would ... - Christine Tham 22:34:42 09/20/06 (21)
- Oh, right... - Charles Hansen 22:42:59 09/20/06 (20)
- "People buy from people they like." - String Section 23:13:41 09/20/06 (4)
- Re: "People buy from people they like." - junvel 00:57:31 09/24/06 (0)
- Re: "People buy from people they like." - graemme 14:25:15 09/21/06 (0)
- Re: "People buy from people they like." - Charles Hansen 23:36:08 09/20/06 (1)
- Re: "People buy from people they like." - sentinel90125 07:34:43 09/22/06 (0)
- What audience? - Christine Tham 23:00:08 09/20/06 (14)
- Were all reading.. - SnaggS 21:38:03 09/21/06 (1)
- Send me private email (nt) - Christine Tham 22:49:40 09/21/06 (0)
- Re: What audience? - The Sound Guy 06:24:56 09/21/06 (9)
- I hope you will understand - Christine Tham 02:41:20 09/22/06 (8)
- OK - The_Sound_Guy 00:07:49 09/28/06 (0)
- Oh, really? - Charles Hansen 06:34:16 09/22/06 (6)
- Re: Oh, really? - Christine Tham 15:36:49 09/22/06 (5)
- Just a little bit more background ... - Christine Tham 16:26:51 09/22/06 (0)
- This is why it is hard to take you seriously - Charles Hansen 16:18:48 09/22/06 (3)
- Re: This is why it is hard to take you seriously - Christine Tham 16:41:17 09/22/06 (2)
- Just one final hint ... - Christine Tham 17:03:01 09/22/06 (1)
- Re: Just one final hint ... - Lin Minh 08:39:10 09/24/06 (0)
- Re: What audience? - Charles Hansen 23:17:42 09/20/06 (1)
- Re: What audience? - Christine Tham 00:33:11 09/21/06 (0)
- Well, let's see here... - Charles Hansen 20:43:50 09/20/06 (5)
- Re: Well, let's see here... - Christine Tham 22:09:50 09/20/06 (4)
- Oh, OK, I believe you now - Charles Hansen 22:38:29 09/20/06 (3)
- And your point is? - Christine Tham 22:57:42 09/20/06 (2)
- Re: And your point is? - Charles Hansen 23:09:05 09/20/06 (1)
- Wow ... - Christine Tham 00:30:58 09/21/06 (0)
- Yours isn't so great either - racerguy 19:28:11 09/20/06 (11)
- Thanks - saved me from typing (nt) - Christine Tham 20:12:53 09/20/06 (0)
- Uhhh... - Charles Hansen 19:55:38 09/20/06 (9)
- Re: Uhhh... - Christine Tham 20:34:10 09/20/06 (3)
- Re: Uhhh... - Charles Hansen 20:57:09 09/20/06 (2)
- Re: Uhhh... - Christine Tham 22:18:51 09/20/06 (1)
- As Woody Allen would say... - Charles Hansen 22:32:48 09/20/06 (0)
- Still no good - racerguy 20:32:55 09/20/06 (4)
- Re: Still no good - Charles Hansen 20:53:31 09/20/06 (3)
- Whatever you say, Charles - racerguy 05:25:56 09/21/06 (2)
- Re: Whatever you say, Charles - Charles Hansen 07:24:03 09/21/06 (1)
- Re: Whatever you say, Charles - racerguy 07:50:06 09/21/06 (0)
- Re: That is truly sad ... - racerguy 18:32:13 09/20/06 (1)
- Re: That is truly sad ... - Christine Tham 18:38:57 09/20/06 (1)
- Re: Comparison of various transports - HighEndWire 07:30:09 09/20/06 (0)
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- That is correct...... - Alex Peychev 10:12:12 09/21/06 (0)
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