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Even if yr 'idol-worship' blathering had even an iota of truth, which it does not (and no, I have no dolls, thank you very much), it would still be clear that yr argument is not based on understanding anything about musicianship. The truth is, yr desire to criticize the Beatles is no less than the inaccurate projection you're foisting on me with reference to some willingness to prop them up when they don't deserve it.

That you saw them at the time means only that you heard a lot of screaming. Nobody had the first clue how to produce one of their concerts properly, and if you think those woefully inadequate stage setups means they should've sounded better than you remember them sounding, you haven't the first clue as to how difficult dealing with them must have been. To equate that with their musicianship on the stage itself is ludicrous. My firmly held opinion is that they did better under those circumstances than any rock band would've ever managed. But few did, because those inadequacies were soon addressed. However, there are two documents that illustrate the pitfalls of playing on a big stage, in front of a lot of people, without sufficient gear, by the Rolling Stones: one is an album called Got Live If You Want It, which I would suggest you give a listen to in comparison with the Hollywood Bowl record, and another is the live performance the same Rolling Stones put on at a show that also seems to have lacked monitors--the live show they put on in London's Hyde Park a few years later. Maybe they sucked because Brian Jones died; maybe it was because they couldn't hear a damned thing. In any case, six months later, a proper stage setup was used on their North American tour. If it hadn't been, there'd be no Get Yer Ya-Yas Out, that's for sure.

You want to dismiss the Hollywood Bowl live rec as mediocre? Well, again, you're entitled to yr opinion, but I'll say again that considering the boners you've foisted on this board in the past, yr credibility on the topic is something I consider to be suspect. I've heard plenty of clams on live Beatles boots, but that doesn't make them 'terrible' under conditions where they couldn't hear a darned thing. Yeah, they were really terrible, huh? Funny you'd mention a song like 'This Boy.' That you're clueless about musicianship couldn't be more apparent in a thread where you'd cite something like that. It's arguably the most difficult 3-way vocal they ever came up with. Playing to a room of nearly 4 TIMES the number of screaming teenagers they'd had to deal with on the first Ed Sullivan broadcast in NYC the week before, it's, oh, scandalous that they would've had difficulty. Well, maybe math suits you more than logic, so chew on these numbers: 728 was the size of the live audience on the first Ed Sullivan Show, 2,600 a week later. So what? They were terrible, according to you.

You're something else.

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