First of all, they sound truly wonderful. They are an obvious improvement over the modified SMGas. I am bi-amping the IIIas. I have a S500 e Threshold and an Adcom 5503. The Threshold is rated 250 @8, 500 @4 and 1000 @2. The Adcom is rated 200 @8, 350@4, and no spec given for 2ohm. The gain is the same on these two amps. Even though I should use the same power for both bass and the mid/tweeter combo, I don't have another amp of equal power. Since the mid/tweeter is rated 3 ohm and the Adcom doesn't have a spec for anything less than 4, I used the Threshold on the mid/tweeter. The Threshold is by far the better sounding amp. I'd prefer the majority of the frequency range be powered by this amp. I'm guessing that the Adcom contributes to some low frequency muddiness.
I'm assuming the Threshold is 750 @3 which gives me roughly twice the watts of the bass panel. Does this all mean that the mid/tweeter section is 3db louder? This also assumes the impedance is flat on both sections which I doubt is true.
Additionally, I'm blowing midrange fuses when I power up. I start sources first, then tube pre and finally the Threshold. The manual calls for normal blow 2.5 amp. Radio Shack has fast blow and slow blow. The clerk told me fast blow is the same as normal. I've not found anything to the contrary.
I do not have fuses in the SMGas. Yesterday I replaced both fuses and restarted but the Threshold was warmed up. This morning I replaced both and restarted without incident. At lunch I blew one of the two. I'm thinking I need to detach speaker cables, let it warm up, shut it down, reattach cables and restart. I have a kill-a-watt meter. Both amps and the pre are plugged into this. I noticed this morning the the amp draw decreased as the Threshold warmed up.
I am not blowing the ribbon fuses.
All suggestions appreciated.
Randy
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Topic - new owner of MG-IIIas with questions - rrob 11:01:38 08/09/10 (109)
- RE: I have Schematics from Magnepan - benie 04:40:17 08/10/10 (0)
- As neo has stated, you *can't* passively biamp stock IIIas ... - andyr 17:39:57 08/09/10 (97)
- Hold on there Baba Boy! Passive *can* be done - MaggiesAndCats 18:24:02 08/09/10 (87)
- Yes, if you have the XO-1 *as well as* the external XOs. Or ... - andyr 20:12:11 08/09/10 (0)
- RE: Am I missing something? - rrob 19:35:53 08/09/10 (85)
- RE: Am I missing something? - neolith 20:25:33 08/09/10 (75)
- RE: Am I missing something? - rrob 20:33:55 08/09/10 (74)
- "Just the external XO" ... I hope you really mean "Just both external XOs"? ... - andyr 20:41:53 08/09/10 (73)
- RE: "Just the external XO" ... I hope you really mean "Just both external XOs"? ... - rrob 20:43:38 08/09/10 (72)
- And each box has just 1 pair of input terminals? nt - andyr 20:44:56 08/09/10 (71)
- RE: And each box has just 1 pair of input terminals? nt - rrob 20:52:45 08/09/10 (70)
- So can you explain how you were connecting 2 amps to the Maggies, then? nt - andyr 20:54:18 08/09/10 (69)
- RE: So can you explain how you were connecting 2 amps to the Maggies, then? nt - rrob 21:17:06 08/09/10 (68)
- OK, *now* we can understand what you're doing. :-)) .. - andyr 21:39:54 08/09/10 (67)
- RE: OK, *now* we can understand what you're doing. :-)) .. - rrob 22:03:43 08/09/10 (66)
- Correct. :-)) ... - andyr 22:41:54 08/09/10 (65)
- I'll have a go at explaining. - Davy 04:16:52 08/10/10 (64)
- RE: I'll have a go at explaining. - Davy 04:54:28 08/10/10 (63)
- Threshold is connected - rrob 05:51:22 08/10/10 (62)
- RE: Threshold is connected - Satie 19:33:10 08/10/10 (18)
- RE: Threshold is connected - rrob 20:07:46 08/10/10 (17)
- RE: Threshold is connected - Satie 14:19:08 08/11/10 (16)
- Satie, I was planning to use the 250s - rrob 18:55:25 08/11/10 (15)
- RE: Satie, I was planning to use the 250s - Satie 21:38:48 08/11/10 (14)
- Satie, thanks for the picture - rrob 07:02:30 08/14/10 (9)
- RE: Satie, thanks for the picture - Davy 07:35:50 08/14/10 (8)
- RE: Satie, thanks for the picture - rrob 09:52:26 08/14/10 (7)
- RE: Satie, thanks for the picture - Satie 13:17:11 08/14/10 (4)
- Satie, I don't think my preamp has - rrob 15:08:32 08/14/10 (3)
- RE: Satie, I don't think my preamp has - Satie 16:02:24 08/15/10 (2)
- RE: Satie, thanks for checking - rrob 16:33:04 08/15/10 (1)
- RE: Satie, thanks for checking - Davy 17:34:21 08/15/10 (0)
- RE: Satie, thanks for the picture - Davy 11:13:37 08/14/10 (0)
- RE: Satie, thanks for the picture - Davy 11:04:23 08/14/10 (0)
- RE: Satie, I was planning to use the 250s - pictureguy 09:44:10 08/12/10 (3)
- RE: Satie, I was planning to use the 250s - Satie 10:07:08 08/12/10 (2)
- RE: Satie, I was planning to use the 250s - pictureguy 11:47:02 08/12/10 (1)
- RE: Satie, I was planning to use the 250s - Satie 14:53:39 08/12/10 (0)
- RE: Threshold is connected - Davy 06:03:29 08/10/10 (42)
- No soldering of the capacitor - neolith 06:32:39 08/10/10 (41)
- RE: No soldering of the capacitor - Davy 06:52:49 08/10/10 (40)
- RE: No soldering of the capacitor - neolith 18:41:02 08/10/10 (4)
- RE: No soldering of the capacitor - Davy 18:59:11 08/10/10 (3)
- Single cap high pass passive line-level xo - neolith 13:19:22 08/12/10 (2)
- RE: Single cap high pass passive line-level xo - Davy 06:59:07 08/16/10 (0)
- RE: Single cap high pass passive line-level xo - Davy 13:28:27 08/12/10 (0)
- Do you need the capacitor when you go active? *nt* - MaggiesAndCats 07:22:55 08/10/10 (34)
- NO, But.... - Davy 07:43:05 08/10/10 (33)
- Interesting... - MaggiesAndCats 08:21:06 08/10/10 (32)
- RE: Interesting... - Davy 08:30:53 08/10/10 (31)
- RE: Interesting... - MaggiesAndCats 09:06:17 08/10/10 (30)
- RE: Interesting... - Davy 09:27:10 08/10/10 (29)
- RE: Interesting... - Davy 16:15:28 08/10/10 (28)
- Analog only - MaggiesAndCats 20:33:51 08/10/10 (25)
- RE: Analog only - Davy 03:52:58 08/11/10 (24)
- RE: DIGITAL only - Satie 14:49:11 08/11/10 (9)
- RE: DIGITAL only - Davy 16:09:13 08/11/10 (8)
- RE: DIGITAL only - Satie 23:04:46 08/11/10 (7)
- RE: DIGITAL only - Davy 06:33:18 08/12/10 (6)
- RE: DIGITAL only - Satie 09:55:03 08/12/10 (5)
- RE: DIGITAL only - Davy 13:09:23 08/12/10 (4)
- RE: DIGITAL only - Satie 12:59:29 08/14/10 (3)
- RE: DIGITAL only - Davy 14:35:18 08/14/10 (2)
- RE: DIGITAL only - Satie 16:30:17 08/15/10 (1)
- Thanks Satie, I'm getting there! - (slowly!) - Davy 17:43:28 08/15/10 (0)
- RE: Analog only - josh358 11:34:49 08/11/10 (13)
- RE: Analog only - Davy 12:12:21 08/11/10 (12)
- RE: Analog only - josh358 12:59:57 08/11/10 (11)
- RE: Analog only - Davy 13:33:51 08/11/10 (10)
- RE: Analog only - josh358 16:57:48 08/11/10 (9)
- RE: Analog only - Davy 17:57:01 08/11/10 (8)
- RE: Analog only - josh358 18:17:09 08/11/10 (7)
- RE: Analog only - Davy 19:11:56 08/11/10 (6)
- RE: Analog only - josh358 20:12:43 08/11/10 (5)
- RE: Analog only - Davy 06:27:52 08/12/10 (4)
- RE: Analog only - josh358 08:26:39 08/12/10 (3)
- RE: Analog only - Davy 12:57:39 08/12/10 (2)
- RE: Analog only - josh358 13:13:16 08/12/10 (1)
- RE: Analog only - Davy 13:19:29 08/12/10 (0)
- RE: Interesting... - rrob 17:26:58 08/10/10 (1)
- RE: Interesting... - Davy 17:39:44 08/10/10 (0)
- Yes - the black box - MaggiesAndCats 20:00:13 08/09/10 (8)
- RE: Yes - the black box - rrob 20:16:55 08/09/10 (6)
- Amp with DC output - neolith 20:31:03 08/09/10 (5)
- RE: Amp with DC output - rrob 20:38:43 08/09/10 (4)
- DO NOT DO IT! - neolith 18:46:38 08/10/10 (3)
- RE: DO NOT DO IT! - rrob 18:51:31 08/10/10 (2)
- It depends if your amps are designed to be able to cope with a short ... or not! :-)) nt - andyr 03:22:20 08/11/10 (1)
- RE: It depends if your amps are designed to be able to cope with a short ... or not! :-)) nt - pictureguy 09:52:27 08/12/10 (0)
- You do have 2 of the external crossover boxes, right? One for each speaker? *nt* - MaggiesAndCats 20:03:50 08/09/10 (0)
- RE: As neo has stated, you *can't* passively biamp stock IIIas ... - rrob 17:55:07 08/09/10 (8)
- Mmmm, we seem to be at cross purposes :-(( ... - andyr 19:20:45 08/09/10 (6)
- RE: Mmmm, we seem to be at cross purposes :-(( ... - rrob 19:53:19 08/09/10 (1)
- No problem ... - andyr 20:07:34 08/09/10 (0)
- Seems there is no XO-1 in the setup - MaggiesAndCats 19:37:43 08/09/10 (3)
- RE: Seems there is no XO-1 in the setup - Davy 20:08:34 08/09/10 (2)
- Perhaps you're referring to the OP? - MaggiesAndCats 07:31:47 08/10/10 (1)
- RE: Perhaps you're referring to the OP? - Davy 07:52:09 08/10/10 (0)
- RE: As neo has stated, you *can't* passively biamp stock IIIas ... - neolith 18:06:55 08/09/10 (0)
- RE: new owner of MG-IIIas with questions - neolith 15:24:49 08/09/10 (9)
- RE: new owner of MG-IIIas with questions - rrob 16:54:49 08/09/10 (1)
- RE: new owner of MG-IIIas with questions - neolith 18:03:02 08/09/10 (0)
- RE: new owner of MG-IIIas with questions - Davy 16:05:01 08/09/10 (4)
- RE: new owner of MG-IIIas with questions - neolith 16:40:58 08/09/10 (3)
- RE: DC output - rrob 17:36:15 08/09/10 (1)
- RE: DC output - neolith 18:16:22 08/09/10 (0)
- RE: new owner of MG-IIIas with questions - Davy 17:10:13 08/09/10 (0)
- RE: new owner of MG-IIIas with questions - josh358 15:48:17 08/09/10 (1)
- LOL!! :-)) nt - andyr 16:51:52 08/09/10 (0)