In Reply to: Got the A21 home. Also Drove a new 2011 Cadillac CTS coupe...what a blast! posted by JBen on July 28, 2010 at 20:18:04:
I went to pick up my friend's Parasound A21. However, he's been dying to show me his new 2011 Cadillac CTS coupe. The first one sold in Florida, according to the dealer. In fact, he bought it right off the trailer the day they arrived.Different strokes for different folks as the saying goes. I personally would no more use an A21 with a $9k speaker than I would purchase a CTS compared to its competition. Its a really a very nice car, but at that price point there are other options. Obviously buying American is not an unimportant selling point these days, but there are better road cars out there, better choices which will retain their value longer, and better choices which will be more reliable down the road (pun intended).
This is not to say your friend made a mistake. The CTS is really a very nice car, the best Cadillac in many years. Car's after all are, to a great degree, a matter of taste...just like amplifiers. But the CTS, as good as it is, is not a world beater.
I have a 2009 Infiniti g37 coupe which is a precise road car with 330 hp and every feature available for the 2011 CTS plus a few more...for a bit less money and with superior reliability. Some will prefer BMWs or some Caddies. There is no right or wrong.
The A 21's are not world beaters either. Although at their price point they are quite a bargain. I had A21's in the house for a short while. Used with my Parasound Halo P3 preamp, Halo tuner and EC EMC 1UP cd player. Speakers were 1.6 maggies and a pair of Paradigm Studio 60s I no longer have.The A21s sounded very nice if a bit too analytical for my tastes on both the maggies and the Paradigms. I inserted a borrowed Electrocompaniet 4.7 preamp from my dealer in the system and immediately realized two things. The A21 was definitely much more analytical and hard sounding than I wished, and with the EC preamp volume all the way up I heard a lot of low level hash coming through the speakers. When I switched to EC amps with the EC preamp, there was dead silence at full volume, the sound was much less hard and the soundstage width and depth expanded so much it was a revelation.
Part of it, I'm sure was amp/pre matching. But a great part of it was simply the $6K worth of EC amps and the $3K preamp was just better on an absolute level for me. There was also a better synergy between the EC amps, preamp, and cd player which should not be downplayed. I got a chance to audition the gear at home for well over a week with no obligation. (I have a great dealer). I ABed various combinations of amps and preamps at home in my own listening room. Money was very much an object right then but it was clear that as good as the A21 was, it was still an inexpensive amp. They are not just smaller verions of JC-1s. I find it hard to believe your friend is really getting the best out of his B&Ws using it.
Maggies, because you can never be too thin!
Mark
Edits: 07/28/10
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Follow Ups
- RE: Got the A21 home. Also Drove a new 2011 Cadillac CTS coupe...what a blast! - MaggieLover 21:43:24 07/28/10 (93)
- Wow, Mark, it must be the moon phase... - JBen 23:36:56 07/28/10 (88)
- RE: Wow, Mark, it must be the moon phase... - MaggieLover 10:00:55 07/29/10 (3)
- I implied? - JBen 17:24:29 07/29/10 (2)
- RE: I implied? - Dawnrazor 18:01:44 07/29/10 (1)
- RE: I implied? - JBen 00:37:10 07/30/10 (0)
- I feel like a woman in an audiophile shop - neolith 07:26:37 07/29/10 (83)
- some cars contributed to my audio setup - wazoo 13:31:58 07/29/10 (79)
- I'm very curious... - mrr 11:07:34 07/31/10 (2)
- nice vette - wazoo 20:10:43 07/31/10 (1)
- Nice stable you have there - mrr 21:05:17 07/31/10 (0)
- Seeing your picture... - slapshot 16:41:36 07/29/10 (70)
- RE: Seeing your picture... - josh358 17:01:48 07/29/10 (69)
- Or... - slapshot 17:40:11 07/29/10 (68)
- RE: Or... - josh358 17:47:59 07/29/10 (67)
- not scaring me at all - wazoo 19:05:28 07/29/10 (66)
- RE: not scaring me at all - josh358 20:14:49 07/29/10 (0)
- Remember that fillum, waz ... "The Money Pit!! Ho ho ho!! :-)) nt - andyr 19:42:50 07/29/10 (2)
- Wasn't it you who told me such projects always go 40% over budget? - wazoo 20:13:21 07/29/10 (1)
- Just having fun scarin ya, waz!! :-)) Are you sure ... - andyr 20:20:01 07/29/10 (0)
- So... - slapshot 19:21:02 07/29/10 (61)
- I ran that idea by my dealer - wazoo 19:35:22 07/29/10 (60)
- RE: I ran that idea by my dealer - josh358 20:13:34 07/29/10 (59)
- I'd rather have new - wazoo 21:20:17 07/29/10 (58)
- RE: I'd rather have new - josh358 05:45:41 07/30/10 (19)
- unrelenting (and it's not falling on deaf ears) - wazoo 05:57:08 07/30/10 (18)
- RE: unrelenting (and it's not falling on deaf ears) - josh358 07:16:30 07/30/10 (17)
- my logic (why I said what I said about upgrading) - wazoo 08:56:50 07/30/10 (16)
- RE: my logic (why I said what I said about upgrading) - MaggieLover 13:45:38 07/30/10 (14)
- no, in fact... - wazoo 19:04:11 07/30/10 (13)
- RE: no, in fact... - MaggieLover 20:32:19 07/30/10 (12)
- no problem - wazoo 08:16:00 07/31/10 (11)
- RE: no problem - MaggieLover 11:32:29 07/31/10 (10)
- width is an issue for me too - wazoo 12:51:48 07/31/10 (9)
- RE: width is an issue for me too - josh358 11:19:45 08/01/10 (2)
- 92" diagonal - wazoo 13:14:55 08/01/10 (1)
- RE: 92" diagonal - josh358 13:57:07 08/01/10 (0)
- RE: width is an issue for me too - Dawnrazor 21:37:31 07/31/10 (5)
- solve a problem + create a problem = still have a problem - wazoo 22:57:55 07/31/10 (4)
- RE: solve a problem + create a problem = still have a problem - Satie 01:54:36 08/02/10 (1)
- thanks - wazoo 19:17:33 08/02/10 (0)
- RE: solve a problem + create a problem = still have a problem - Dawnrazor 09:51:21 08/01/10 (1)
- ah, well, never had any with which to experiment - wazoo 13:20:39 08/01/10 (0)
- RE: my logic (why I said what I said about upgrading) - josh358 11:57:32 07/30/10 (0)
- RE: I'd rather have new - andyr 00:28:50 07/30/10 (37)
- check - wazoo 04:11:21 07/30/10 (36)
- RE: check - Dawnrazor 08:00:21 07/30/10 (33)
- oooh, an XVR1 - wazoo 19:10:15 07/30/10 (32)
- RE: oooh, an XVR1 - Dawnrazor 21:42:57 07/30/10 (31)
- thanks - wazoo 08:20:56 07/31/10 (30)
- RE: thanks - Dawnrazor 10:22:39 07/31/10 (29)
- compromises, compromises - wazoo 10:52:05 07/31/10 (28)
- RE: compromises, compromises - Satie 20:55:44 08/03/10 (0)
- RE: compromises, compromises - Dawnrazor 11:12:06 07/31/10 (26)
- another compromise - wazoo 12:04:11 07/31/10 (25)
- RE: another compromise - Dawnrazor 12:09:16 07/31/10 (24)
- not that compromise - wazoo 12:54:52 07/31/10 (23)
- RE: not that compromise - Dawnrazor 21:24:36 07/31/10 (22)
- RE: not that compromise - josh358 16:19:35 08/02/10 (19)
- RE: not that compromise - Dawnrazor 16:26:29 08/02/10 (18)
- low (now no) compromise HT - wazoo 18:58:55 08/02/10 (0)
- RE: not that compromise - josh358 18:52:20 08/02/10 (16)
- RE: not that compromise - Dawnrazor 22:59:57 08/03/10 (15)
- RE: not that compromise - josh358 04:59:48 08/04/10 (14)
- Classic view is the best - Dawnrazor 16:58:32 08/04/10 (13)
- RE: Classic view is the best - josh358 17:06:54 08/04/10 (12)
- both views are useful - wazoo 19:19:04 08/04/10 (11)
- RE: both views are useful - josh358 20:14:28 08/04/10 (0)
- RE: both views are useful - Dawnrazor 19:40:38 08/04/10 (9)
- shocking - wazoo 20:19:30 08/04/10 (8)
- RE: shocking - Dawnrazor 20:35:44 08/04/10 (7)
- WAF - wazoo 21:34:36 08/04/10 (6)
- RE: Big Small Amp - Satie 03:05:18 08/05/10 (2)
- RE: Big Small Amp - Satie 12:09:28 08/05/10 (0)
- specs say 70W - wazoo 05:02:35 08/05/10 (0)
- Power corrupts waz...be careful! nt. - Dawnrazor 22:18:41 08/04/10 (2)
- Corrupt me! - wazoo 05:03:48 08/05/10 (1)
- Nice Waz - Dawnrazor 08:03:29 08/05/10 (0)
- Since y'all want to convince me of something... - wazoo 22:53:01 07/31/10 (1)
- RE: Since y'all want to convince me of something... - JBen 01:54:01 08/01/10 (0)
- That's great - everything's under control, waz! :-)) ... - andyr 04:22:17 07/30/10 (1)
- indeed - wazoo 04:57:10 07/30/10 (0)
- RE: some cars contributed to my audio setup - MaggieLover 14:18:30 07/29/10 (4)
- not sure yet - wazoo 14:55:29 07/29/10 (3)
- RE: not sure yet - MaggieLover 15:34:44 07/29/10 (2)
- a little buffer is a great thing - wazoo 19:14:04 07/29/10 (1)
- RE: a little buffer is a great thing - MaggieLover 22:56:28 07/29/10 (0)
- RE: I feel like a woman in an audiophile shop - josh358 10:02:04 07/29/10 (0)
- Motorized recliner with 3 seater sofa back seat - Satie 09:19:33 07/29/10 (0)
- RE: I feel like a woman in an audiophile shop - Dawnrazor 08:12:06 07/29/10 (0)
- RE: Got the A21 home. Also Drove a new 2011 Cadillac CTS coupe...what a blast! - Dawnrazor 22:02:10 07/28/10 (3)
- RE: Got the A21 home. Also Drove a new 2011 Cadillac CTS coupe...what a blast! - MaggieLover 22:25:02 07/28/10 (2)
- RE: Got the A21 home. Also Drove a new 2011 Cadillac CTS coupe...what a blast! - josh358 09:57:30 07/29/10 (0)
- Yep, a system thing. nt. - Dawnrazor 23:06:00 07/28/10 (0)