Re: Methodology for identifying crapola? ;-)

Posted by jneutron (A) on September 23, 2005 at 07:00:36

In Reply to: Methodology for identifying crapola? ;-) posted by KCHANG on September 22, 2005 at 15:24:31:

Kchang: ""I believe that you understand that I fully agree with your attitude of keeping an open mind while demanding proof, so hopefully you'd not think that I'm just trying to start some worthless argument. The reason I ask the question is that setting forth the methodology for identifying crapola could be educational, and might also expose some dilema or paradox we may face when making such a decision.""

I in no way consider your post as argumentative.. I do not consider anyone who questions statements as being that..

Generically...this is how I do it..

Any explanation of operation has to be logical, internally consistent, and externally consistent.

If an explanation builds upon 5 or 10 steps to get to the end result, failure of even one of those steps trashes the explanation..if the first step of the explanation directly violates maxwells equations, or gravity, or laser optics, or the standard model, STOP..it is over..that is external consistency..

GSIC: the explanation requires laser light escape the CD box, reflect off the walls of the room, get into the chip case, do something...

Laser light is gaussian propagation of monochromatic, coherent light. If it reflects off a specular surface like a mirror, it is still a laser beam..if it reflects off a diffuse surface, like a painted wall, it is no longer a laser..it is simply monochromatic light..direction is now random, coherence is lost, it's just...light..

Since the explanation requires laser light to activate the chip, and there is none there, the exercise is over..the explanation has a grand canyon sized gap, without a bridge..

Another point is that given the intensity of the laser that can leak out, the room ambient is far stronger than the leak...

Also, how is anything supposed to affect a spinning disk in any fashion, through aluminum, intelligently, when the magic material being touted, quantum dots, is specifically designed to output visible light in response to optical pumping by a light of higher energy than the designed flourescence? In other words, if the material outputs blue, it cannot be activated by green, red, or infrared..the photon energy is insufficient..

Logically, the explanation is dead...a stinkin corpse..and then, in response to logical arguments such as this, the response from the purveyors is...how do you know if you haven't tried it??

Look at one of JR's explanations..motor generator..

It requires that the wires move in response to the internal currents.. If you look at a #12 wire pair, at 10 amperes the conductor force is .0018 ounces outward per linear inch of wire..not significant at all. No motive force of any size, no movement..simple, the argument is over..

Now, to be fair, I'll look at JR's Bi-wire. Standard analysis says it don't add to a hill of beans..can't be audible..

My differential localization work is pointing to human sensitivity numbers way smaller that what has been used to discount JR's analysis. Additionally, there may be a significant difference in the energy loss equations between one set and the biwire set, I'm workin on that also..

In other words, I seem to be working toward proving Jon Risch correct..for me, not a problem..truth is truth..regardless of his continued "naysayer" categorization of me..

All parts of an explanation have to work..If not, toss the explanation and come up with another to test. Simple..be wary of people who seem married to the explanations, they have the most to lose from the scientific deconstruction of their floob..

Cheers, John

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Topic - better magnet wire, better transformer? - Slawney 09:07:40 09/20/05 (44)

Re: better magnet wire, better transformer? - Steve Eddy 19:36:18 09/21/05 (3)

Re: better magnet wire, better transformer? - pkell44 07:39:23 09/22/05 (2)

Oh ,get real! - clifff 14:55:05 09/22/05 (1)

Re: Oh ,get real! - pkell44 16:06:58 09/22/05 (0)

Re: better magnet wire, better transformer? - jcarr 11:25:58 09/21/05 (2)

Re: better magnet wire, better transformer? - pkell44 16:19:04 09/22/05 (0)

Re: better magnet wire, better transformer? - john curl 12:17:15 09/21/05 (0)

Re: better magnet wire, better transformer? - john curl 09:30:59 09/21/05 (1)

oh sure..:-) - jneutron 13:39:31 09/21/05 (0)

Re: better magnet wire, better transformer? - Tweekeng 10:52:12 09/20/05 (34)

Re: better magnet wire, better transformer? - pkell44 17:34:20 09/21/05 (3)

Re: better magnet wire, better transformer? - Steve Eddy 19:56:06 09/21/05 (2)

Re: better magnet wire, better transformer? - pkell44 07:15:14 09/22/05 (1)

Re: better magnet wire, better transformer? - Steve Eddy 21:28:22 09/22/05 (0)

What on earth makes you think ....simply.... - Russ57 14:38:19 09/20/05 (1)

Virgin copper? Not enough! - Jacques 03:06:00 09/21/05 (0)

Re: better magnet wire, better transformer? - Slawney 12:01:18 09/20/05 (27)

Re: better magnet wire, better transformer? - jneutron 05:55:16 09/21/05 (0)

Re: better magnet wire, better transformer? - Tweekeng 12:49:21 09/20/05 (25)

Actually, ALL of the music comes thru the power transfomer. - jeffreybehr 13:12:26 09/20/05 (24)

Re: Actually, ALL of the music comes thru the power transfomer. - Tweekeng 13:57:12 09/20/05 (23)

IMO this is incorrect - Soundripples 06:37:34 09/21/05 (22)

Re: IMO this is incorrect - Tweekeng 08:05:02 09/21/05 (17)

hmm - jneutron 08:18:51 09/21/05 (16)

Re: hmm - Tweekeng 09:09:17 09/21/05 (15)

Re: hmm - pkell44 16:30:16 09/22/05 (0)

Re: hmm - jneutron 10:18:25 09/21/05 (13)

Re: hmm - pkell44 16:36:04 09/22/05 (0)

Amazing what our brain can do - Russ57 11:06:44 09/21/05 (11)

Re: Amazing what our brain can do - pkell44 16:39:26 09/22/05 (0)

Re: Amazing what our brain can do - Tweekeng 07:17:33 09/22/05 (3)

Re: Amazing what our brain can do - pkell44 16:40:38 09/22/05 (0)

Yes, it is. - jneutron 09:04:00 09/22/05 (0)

The power of faith is not the same as being deluded - Russ57 09:02:26 09/22/05 (0)

Re: Amazing what our brain can do - jneutron 11:58:59 09/21/05 (5)

Methodology for identifying crapola? ;-) - KCHANG 15:24:31 09/22/05 (4)

Re: Methodology for identifying crapola? ;-) - jneutron 07:00:36 09/23/05 (3)

Re: Methodology for identifying crapola? ;-) - Jon Risch 20:22:54 09/27/05 (1)

Re: Methodology for identifying crapola? ;-) - jneutron 06:48:13 09/28/05 (0)

Re: Methodology for identifying crapola? ;-) - KCHANG 09:25:05 09/23/05 (0)

Re: IMO this is incorrect - jneutron 06:51:49 09/21/05 (3)

Re: IMO this is incorrect - Soundripples 07:26:02 09/21/05 (1)

Figured you'd like it.. - jneutron 08:07:03 09/21/05 (0)

Please do not misunderstand me. - jneutron 07:24:01 09/21/05 (0)

Well, I'm glad you've listened VERY carefully to so many of these... - jeffreybehr 16:03:10 09/20/05 (0)

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Re: Methodology for identifying crapola? ;-) - jneutron 07:00:36 09/23/05 (3)

Re: Methodology for identifying crapola? ;-) - Jon Risch 20:22:54 09/27/05 (1)

Re: Methodology for identifying crapola? ;-) - jneutron 06:48:13 09/28/05 (0)

Re: Methodology for identifying crapola? ;-) - KCHANG 09:25:05 09/23/05 (0)

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