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In Reply to: Re: He said "lossless", y'all! Wake up! posted by Lynn on February 12, 2006 at 21:22:43:
I have no doubt that the buffer stays full quite nicely, etc.But that is NOT what I am talking about, I am talking about the firing pattern of the data stream IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT for a coded lossless data stream and one that is the full linear PCM data stream.
This digital data transistion pattern WILL feed into the PS, and this WILL get into the DAC. It has to, the PS impedance is not zero, nor is the ground plane impedance zero. Once the PS is changing, the DAC has modulation of the output due totiming errors from absolute perfection.
SOTA playback equipment DOES get the jitter level down pretty low, but it is aparently not below the level of audibility, as even the SOTA players all sound a little diffeent.
Now, the question is, does this different pattern SOUND different while playing back the music, and does it just sound different, or does it sound worse or better? ONLY listening will tell us, right now, we can not measure and correlate the jitter levels with what we hear.
Jon Risch
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- Missing the whole point - Jon Risch 17:47:55 02/15/06 (39)
- No, Jon, no. - Silver Eared John 15:33:53 02/16/06 (0)
- The output from the PC to the DAC is always a full linear PCM data stream - Lynn 18:35:11 02/15/06 (37)
- Re: The output from the PC to the DAC is always a full linear PCM data stream - Jon Risch 20:01:37 02/16/06 (36)
- Another fib, Jon? - Silver Eared John 10:24:23 02/17/06 (34)
- JJ never could take a joke - Jon Risch 13:56:02 02/18/06 (33)
- Re: JJ never could take a joke - real_jj 16:25:18 02/20/06 (19)
- Congratulations on your award! It is good to have people of your caliber back on board. nt. - Lynn 08:06:15 02/24/06 (1)
- Sorry to say... - real_jj 23:46:10 03/04/06 (0)
- Hallelujah! - Pat D 12:17:48 02/22/06 (16)
- Gee that's funny - E-Stat 20:00:48 03/03/06 (15)
- Caymus, drop me a line via corporate mail... - real_jj 22:18:03 03/03/06 (14)
- Don't forget to contact "old_jj" - E-Stat 05:41:14 03/04/06 (13)
- Oh, that might be me, having lost the login information... - real_jj 17:32:04 03/04/06 (12)
- The "real" jj - E-Stat 20:22:40 03/04/06 (11)
- As you are well aware, I deleted that ID... - real_jj 23:42:03 03/04/06 (10)
- Why do you think folks are well aware - E-Stat 06:17:37 03/05/06 (9)
- So, you aren't dilligent. - real_jj 13:37:57 03/05/06 (8)
- Pompous as usual - it IS you! - E-Stat 19:11:04 03/05/06 (7)
- Some things just don't change. - real_jj 21:29:48 03/05/06 (6)
- Your reply perfectly illustrates my point - E-Stat 14:29:49 03/06/06 (5)
- Here we go again... - real_jj 17:21:46 03/06/06 (4)
- Most folks would have just said - E-Stat 17:42:57 03/06/06 (3)
- Most people might have asked, not accused... - real_jj 18:43:14 03/06/06 (2)
- I most certainly did. Read my first post again (hint: look for the ?) - E-Stat 05:19:12 03/07/06 (1)
- Riiiight - real_jj 10:48:45 03/07/06 (0)
- Why don't you ask JJ sometime, then? - Silver Eared John 13:56:04 02/19/06 (1)
- You did hear about the tea shop in Australia, didn't you? - real_jj 11:32:28 03/06/06 (0)
- Joking with JJ about DBTs... - mkuller 12:01:30 02/19/06 (10)
- Given the people who have died recently due to this issue, IMO, this 'joke' is in poor taste (at best). nt. - Lynn 16:24:27 02/19/06 (1)
- Sorry if I offended you...(nt) - mkuller 11:17:28 02/20/06 (0)
- Y'all do realize that's accusing JJ of malpractice, don't ye? - Silver Eared John 13:59:41 02/19/06 (7)
- No one is accusing you... - mkuller 16:17:47 02/19/06 (6)
- No y'all ain'taccusing me, y'all accusing jj - Silver Eared John 20:52:44 02/19/06 (5)
- Dr. Jeckyl or Mr. Hyde - same person...(nt) - mkuller 09:53:39 02/21/06 (4)
- Re: Dr. Jeckyl or Mr. Hyde - same person...(nt) - Dan Banquer 16:48:52 02/21/06 (2)
- "real jj" registered February 20, 2006 - LOL! (nt) - mkuller 10:22:10 02/22/06 (1)
- Re: "real jj" registered February 20, 2006 - LOL! (nt) - real_jj 11:53:24 02/22/06 (0)
- It's time y'all stop spreading that idea, Mkuller - Silver Eared John 10:18:10 02/21/06 (0)
- Re: The output from the PC to the DAC is always a full linear PCM data stream - Lynn 20:56:17 02/16/06 (0)