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Re: It is also possible...

> ...that Apple Lossless isn't truly lossless,

This is trivial to determine and if it were not lossless I am sure the world would have heard about it one or two days after it was released. It was easy enough for the kids to reverse engineer and it uses standard known techniques.

> or that all the information is not recovered even if it IS lossless in principle.

I am not sure what this means other than the player has a design defect?

What I find interesting is why a couple of audiophiles who presumably place some emphasis on high quality reproduction do not return their apparently defective hardware?

After hearing something odd that our audiophiles find interesting why not perform a simple check by using different hardware like their computer? It would probably take only a few seconds to check if they had used their computers to store the files before transferring to their portable devices.

Why having found something odd have our two audiophiles discarded all the likely explanations and fixated on something so unlikely as to be almost impossible. The ability to do this does seem to be an important part of being an audiophile.



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