In Reply to: Well, that's typical... posted by J on April 25, 2006 at 16:50:46:
"Where people think that their snobbery has the only valid boundaries."No need for petulance, dear boy. It does not become you. And since when does voicing one's opinion amount to snobbery? Dreadfully sorry if I’ve trampled on your dogma, but it hardly makes me a snob. I should think that obvious to all but the most obtuse among us.
"The rock snob who hates rap, the prog snob that hates punk, the punk snob who hates classic rock, the rock snob who hates classical, the jazz snob who hates rock...and the one you haven't had the good fortune to encounter, the classical snob whose attitude might make you take a look at yr own snobbery & how it diminishes yr credibility when it comes to making..."
What, precisely, is your point? That all musical genres are qualitatively equal? Relativism run amok? Does that about sum up your zeitgeist? In your world does Dylan equal Bach in terms of musical genius? Dylan certainly doesn't think so. Shall we declare Santana the equal of Schubert in terms of compositional sophistication?
"Hey, that Bob Dylan guy, all he ever wrote about was, uh...lust?â€
As a matter of fact one of his best selling albums is entitled "Desire." But your analogy is weak inasmuch as Dylan doesn’t fit the mold of the typical rocker. He might best be described as a folk singer who wrote some country/rock tunes once upon a time before falling into a bottle of scotch. Most devotees describe him as a “poet.†But to my original point, when it comes to musical sophistication Dylan’s work is embarrassingly simplistic compared to, say, Beethoven's chamber music.Dylan was good at rhyme scheme. Wow. And much of his work the past twenty years has been quite forgettable. Moreover, his early work sounds painfully dated. Not so Beethoven’s string quartets. Why do you suppose that is?
"Of course, if you have any interest in responding to anything any of us arguing with you have had to say, by all means, go right ahead. I maintain that you'd be best served being lectured about how the likes of Duke Ellington & Miles Davis are absolutely worthless, but that's probably not going to happen."
And if I were lectured in such a manner I would have no trouble defending my position with something more substantive than "snob." (Not the most cogent of rebuttals, dear boy.) If you have a point, other than the very predictable and transparent ode to relativism that gets aired ad nauseam during such discussions, then I encourage you to make it. I'm still waiting for someone on here to offer examples wherein rock music has produced something that is evocative of what is best in man. Something on the order of Beethoven’s 9th. Now put on your thinking cap and make your case. Dazzle me with your brilliance. So far all you’ve offered is a haughty pose that fails to impress. :)
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- Re: Well, that's typical... - regmac 17:56:34 04/25/06 (7)
- Re: Well, that's typical... - Sugardawg34 21:05:20 04/26/06 (0)
- so here's a question - tunenut 21:16:53 04/25/06 (0)
- Re: Well, that's typical... - J 19:49:43 04/25/06 (4)
- Re: Well, that's typical... - regmac 08:17:42 04/26/06 (3)
- Re: Well, that's typical... - J 14:01:43 04/26/06 (0)
- ain't it fun? - tunenut 13:39:10 04/26/06 (0)
- Art is subjective - meisterkleef 12:45:28 04/26/06 (0)