In Reply to: Soundstage is one of the most subjective of attributes posted by Feanor on February 21, 2024 at 04:15:16:
(... because there is no magic)Morricab says soundstage is a "psychoacoustic" phenomenon, (I agree) ... but seems to imply that it is ultimately unmeasurable, (I disagree).
Note: a few days ago I improve my soundstage, (perceptively wider, deeper), by moving my speakers a little farther apart; no components were changed. However morricab is talking about differences in soundstage on account of individual components. (Are these different things? I thinks so.)
So how might we hope to measure the soundstage contribution of individual components? Seems to me ..
Either we find some presently mysterious direct soundstage measurement (analogous to, but not, harmonic distortion), Or we find that some existing measurement(s) that correlate with the soundstage phenomenon. So for example, (to press a point on which still not everyone agrees), tube qualities, such as "warmth", correlate with relatively high low order harmonic distortions and relatively low higher order HDs.
Possibly but hypothetically, another tube quality which AbeCollins has described as "layered imaging", others as simply "depth". is another correlate of harmonic distortion profile. I've heard phenomenon myself and personally believe it was related to my tube preamp versus s/s and passive preamps that I compared. Thus I call it "reverberation effect" and consider at an "artifact" or "fake" in that I don't believe its on the recording itself.
Dmitri Shostakovich
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Follow Ups
- SO ... HOW do we measure soundstage??? - Feanor 05:41:07 02/22/24 (9)
- RE: SO ... HOW do we measure soundstage??? - morricab 07:08:11 02/22/24 (6)
- OK, but how do we know the D90se is "brighter" than it should be? - Feanor 09:56:52 02/22/24 (5)
- RE: OK, but how do we know the D90se is "brighter" than it should be? - morricab 02:52:34 02/23/24 (4)
- Who says the D90SE is bright? - kjg 11:23:28 02/23/24 (3)
- RE: Who says the D90SE is bright? - morricab 07:20:01 02/29/24 (2)
- Say what !?! You haven't actually heard the D90SE?? - Feanor 04:51:38 03/04/24 (1)
- RE: Say what !?! You haven't actually heard the D90SE?? - morricab 05:52:42 03/04/24 (0)
- RE: SO ... HOW do we measure soundstage??? - Tre' 06:57:25 02/22/24 (1)
- RE: SO ... HOW do we measure soundstage??? - morricab 07:16:00 02/22/24 (0)