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In Reply to: No difference - “sighted†listening has the exactly the SAME problems you mention posted by Caymus on December 24, 2005 at 19:29:52:
Actually, I'm not "claiming" anything - I'm questioning.If sighted listening produces too many false positives and DBT's too many false negatives, I guess it's a matter of preference. I'm questioning how DBT is considered superior... I'm not saying it isn't, I'm merely questioning it.
>However, DBTs offer a significant advantage over “sighted†tests to remove the fixed expectation bias from interfering with our listening.<
Yes - provided there are biases that need removal. So far no one using your argument has explained to my satisfaction how in many cases, my biases were overcome by a simple sighted listening test. Several times the component I thought would sound better did not. Several times I WANTED a particular component to sound better but it did not. Recently and much to my consternation, I heard a solid state pre/power combo that sounded as good or better than any tube gear I've ever heard - and I'm a confirmed tube-aholic. If I could afford it, I'd give it a serious audition. If you knew me, you'd know that my biases are strongly against anything with transistors in it.
The point is that "biases" are very often beaten to death by contrary experience... more often that by DBT's, I dare say.
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Follow Ups
- True but I'm not claiming sighted listening to be superior overall - kerr 14:57:23 12/25/05 (18)
- Out of curiousity... - Silver Eared John 10:25:35 01/03/06 (0)
- Ah! So you take 'bias' as a personal matter, subject to your learning and volition. - Pat D 11:00:50 12/26/05 (16)
- Re: Ah! So you take 'bias' as a personal matter, subject to your learning and volition. - kerr 13:22:30 12/26/05 (15)
- Re: Ah! So you take 'bias' as a personal matter, subject to your learning and volition. - Pat D 20:53:53 12/26/05 (14)
- Re: Ah! So you take 'bias' as a personal matter, subject to your learning and volition. - kerr 06:31:54 12/27/05 (13)
- So the donkey would starve? (nt) - Pat D 09:56:56 12/27/05 (12)
- No, he simply did the donkey version of eeny, meeny, miney mo! - kerr 10:26:06 12/27/05 (11)
- You'll find a reason to favor one over the other - Caymus 12:44:37 12/27/05 (10)
- Agreed - kerr 14:13:48 12/27/05 (9)
- Busting the donkey scenario. - clarkjohnsen 15:09:03 12/27/05 (8)
- Re: Busting the donkey scenario. - David Aiken 14:58:06 12/28/05 (1)
- Trust you kept track of which was which... nt - clarkjohnsen 17:22:59 12/28/05 (0)
- Heh, heh - kerr 17:09:00 12/27/05 (5)
- And there you have it, in the words of the master... nt - clarkjohnsen 08:08:03 12/28/05 (0)
- You still had to choose one before another. - Pat D 21:56:44 12/27/05 (3)
- Your story has a point - kerr 04:33:43 12/28/05 (2)
- Re: Your story has a point - gymwear5@hotmail.com 08:09:37 12/30/05 (1)
- If that's the point of the donkey story... - kerr 09:49:33 12/30/05 (0)
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