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In Reply to: RE: Has anyone heard the new Marantz sa-10? posted by Frank I on August 15, 2017 at 18:32:57
Yes- Frank, we are awaiting your review. You have not reported why it was pushed back from June to October???
Follow Ups:
I been finishing other ones so we should be able to publish in October. Been busy with the Oppo UDP 205 which is published and also the Modwright UDP 205 for November for a followup. I also have The 50K Shangri-La system coming this months. , Problem is w3 have lot of show stuff we been doing for RMAF and CAF. Patience.
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Frank I, why was the SA-10 review pushed back from Summer to Fall ?
Looking forward to a good read and review.
Frank 1 is into using interconnects more expensive than the player ( his Oppo 205 review),. I have told you previously that Hired Fox has said all you need to know, in his final update.if you want excellent stereo only SACD then you should audition the SA-10,as for CD H.F. says the SA-10 is not as good as past Marantz reference spinners, so again go and audition the SA-10
for yourself,the only way you will ever know if you want to buy it. Do not rely on any review.
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Nothing wrong w/ using premium cabling- Disbeliever.
Fantja Would you pay $2k a metre for interconnects to use with a $1299 universal player,IMO this is for those with more dough than commonsense.
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I use them in my system because I also review items costing 50K or more. The cables and cords and also want to hear exactly what the unit is capable of doing. Reviewers use the best of what is available so we can hear exactly what the piece I am evaluating is doing and I am using them on the Marantz SA10 as well.
Are we indeed going to get a review of the SA10 in October?
Frank I - we are awaiting your review ?
You've been posting monthly for Frank to post a review. FRANKLY, give up :)
Laughing...
I sure hope so- airheadair
Coming from a guy who didn't know his player didn't have analog outputs.
Incorrect
Yes, I would at the least, match cabling to the price of the component.
The spinner is marked at $1299, match a pair of $1299 (ballpark) IC.
My other components are all top tier pieces.. In any event we used them also on the SA10 and Modwright UDP 205.
Frank I ,How does the Oppo 205 SQ .compare with stereo only SACD Marantz SA-10 , is the latter worth the vast amount of extra money. as you use interconnects costing more than the Oppo 205 to make it sound better ? I suspect you may favour the SA-10.
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I used the Oppo UDP 205 in stereo only. You have ti wait for the review.
Frank 1 , Have read your UDP-205 review in headphone.guru , see no mention of mch SACD several posters on the Steve Hoffman forum Bill Mac for one say they hear no difference between the 105 & 205, is this because they are not using interconnects that are more expensive than the UDP-205 Anyway I am very interested to find out how the stereo SACD compares with the SA-10,is the latter worth extra expense ?.
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I only used sacd in 2 channel. The presentations are different. If you interested i not spending lot of money the UDP 205 is excellent. The Modwright version will talk about the differences and compared directly to the more expensive SA10. If you want a more analytical sound i sacd 2 channel the Oppo has that if you want a more detailed and warmer sound the DSA10 has that . The Modwright UDP 205 is sensational and takes the analytical presentation away form the stockUDP 205.
I find SACD is best in mch and I believe this Forums resident technical expert Kal agrees but not using a receiver. No way would I get a product modified with antique tubes or pay IMO a rip off price for same. Whilst I am not a Oppo fan , it seems to me that the Oppo 205 playing mch SACD is a much better buy than the stereo only Marantz SA-10. Reading your review one can only wonder as to why anyone would want to Modwright the 205, you do not say it is a bit cold & clinical as Modwright claim , in fact quite the opposite ,and soundstage will be improved with the mod., your Universal-Sensation review is a contradiction. I wonder if Oppo buddy Kal will review the 205 in mch SACD. Just read a post in Audioshark that says Modwright mods leave analogue outputs unchanged.
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Hard for you to critique something you never heard. The Modwright uses current production tubes. I do not drive anything or review anything with a receiver. In any case you need to audition product before making statements on the what they are or are not..Your MO over the years has not changed.
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I have not auditioned the Oppo 205 and are only commenting on your enthusiastic review headphone.guru which seems at odds with statements from Modwright who say it is a bit cold & clinical with hard edge or glare.... I have no interest in tubes new or old. As for mch. with a receiver this only refers to Kal who uses a pre-pro & additional amps. I assume you have no interest in mch SACD. I repeat reading your review of the 205, its hard to understand why anyone would spend more than the cost of this spinner on a extortionate priced mod.$2495 when according to you it is already a Universal- Sensation.It appears that the expensive $2K a metre interconnects you use (you say the sound is spectacular) are eliminating the cold clinical& hard edge glare heard by Modwright.
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The modifications by Modwright is a substantial upgrade. It replaces the entire analog section with premium parts and adds a separate power supply. The UDP 205 with the modification is at another level entirely and worth the investment. Still your criticism is not valid since you never heard the product nor plan to audition it. The Oppo stock is sensational and the Modwright version better yet. I stand by by comments based on working with both versions for months, People usually comment from experience with products and ones that do not listen to a product then criticize it makes that opinion non valid in my opinion. This hobby is about subjective listening which in your case is non existent.
Your review is questionable, makes no sense after reading Modwright's comments. Get your facts right,I have not criticised the 205 only disparity or incongruity of your review . We still have no reviews of the 205 with mch SACD.
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Your the one making no sense. Not hearing products then making remarks about products you have not heard. Your just trolling and offer no insight into this discussion. Regarding our review of the UDP 205 we were honest and thorough in our evaluation for our website followers which are personal audio enthusiast. We do not do multi-channel or surround sound reviews for headphone enthusiasts. We review for personal audio market on our sight which excludes multi channel listeners. Your comments remain irrelevant and not a contribution to this discussion. Perhaps you should actually listen to products before you make silly remarks. No one takes you seriously.
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Frank I
I am looking forward to your review of the SA-10.
We all have waited long enough for it.
I have not had the opportunity to audition 205 only the 203, your review as you say will be of interest to your followers and you have now explained why you did not review its mch capability. Modwright mod. does not improve the analogue out for mch operation in the same way it does for Stereo. Perhaps Kal will review 205 mch capabilities if favourable I will audition the 205, not bothered so far because not keen on having so many analogue interconnects necessary for using the 205s Sabre Pro 9308 Dac in mch mode when using my Sony receiver, which incidently has extremely good 32 bit copper shielded dacs and only requires one HDMI lead for mch SACDstill sounds excellent.
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