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Peter: ""Establishing a quality ranking for a cable based on RLC measurements is useless beyond gross characterization. ""

You have no data to support that statement..other than anecdotal evidence..and I have none (well, AH has none) to refute it..

Peter:""BTW, you said:

"The lack of established correlation between those measurements and audibility does not mean the measurements cannot be used to ultimately define the cable and it's merit within the application...

Think about what you said! We can make a value judgement about applicability with measurements that don't even measure the ultimate application? Huh?

No, re-read my (certainly confusing) statement...you are saying a lack of established correlation means you can't use the data...I'm saying you have nothing to prove the RLC data is useless.. a lack of information is not the same as zero correlation...Unless, you have in the last two weeks, run a correlation between the RLC data in the article and audibility?

You seem to be arguing with me, on points that we clearly (well to me, anyway) agree with..

I have not said the ranking is correct...I have pointed out that the ranking is based on artificial assumptions..

What I am pointing out is that the ranking metrics need to be corrected to reflect what is really being "heard" by you..

The real issue here is getting both camps to work together to assess (sp) the validity of the metric...I am confident that it is not correct..and in modifying that metric towards what is perceived as reality..

You seem bent towards throwing anyone's attempt at analyzing cables out the window and instead, relying on bright/dark/fuzzy/smeary style of cable analysis..but I don't think that is what you have in mind..

I think you may be over-reacting to the attempt simply because you do not agree with the weights of the metric...well, join the club...I happen to agree with you..

But, it seems that you are simply arguing to throw it all out, and start at square one because you don't agree with the weighting scheme..

I do not agree with that..as per my anecdote, I prefer to build on the analysis, not simply keep on tossing out what you don't like..

Fix it, dammit..it's broken!!! If you can think of any realistic measures to include, well??? Present them...don't just trash the effort because you don't like it or agree with it..

I personally am working towards the lateralization analysis and testing, as nothing in that metric concerns how humans perceive the stereo image...nothing..

And, I also concern myself with the characterization of "8 ohms", as everything I am seeing is steady state, and lateralization has so much transient stuff.

Cheers, John

PS...this is enjoyable..thanks..


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