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In Reply to: Strictly speaking, I wasn't asking about "decoders" posted by E-Stat on November 10, 2006 at 18:58:28:
"While I always enjoyed the challenge of working with complex algorithms, my musical side responds that what you are doing is necessarily artificial"Grow up. Reproducing music is artificial. Always has been, always will be. In fact, the way I look at it, the only sound which comes out of a loudspeaker or a headphone which is music is from an electric guitar or the like and a systhesizer because they are part of the instrument themselves. And except for some synthesizer music they are not sounds I particularly like hearing.
"I was using your H-K Citation 11 preamp and a "pro" Crown amp at age 17. I dumped them when I got my first full range electrostats in '77. About fifteen years ago"
The real world in use differences between this class of equipment and other far more expensive equipment is so marginal as to not be worth the substantial extra cost. Real engineers are always cost conscious, practical. They don't succumb to having to have what someone else says is best because someone else says it. They treat their own money as carefully as they treat those who employ them to spend theirs. If they want to stay in business, when they spend extra money, there has to be a good justifiable reason. In the case of so called high end audio equipment, there usually isn't. And BTW, IMO if a real engineer wanted such equipment, most often he'd build it himself. It's not that hard.
"I bought a DSP based unit and again tried with a pair of RS Minimum 7s in the rear. Similar story"
Don't compare what you did to what I did. The DSP I bought came 13 years after I found the mathematical solution to this problem and 11 years after I built an analog version. The DSP I sellected was only chosen because it had the capability of being programmed with the suitable algorighms and that is only part of the solution. Other DSPs don't. Even so, it tooks several years to get it to work satisfactorily. Insofar as the overall solution is concerned, I know at least as much as the DSP manufacturer did when he stole my algorithms and incorporated it into his product. As for 5.1, it doesn't have a prayer of recreating concert hall acoustics or experience. The signal isn't on the recording, can't be put there for a variety of reasons (a 6.1 would be the minimum if it could) and the conventional 5.1 systems couldn't reproduce it properly if it were. Stick with your dressing screens. That's the best you will likely ever get anyway.
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- Re: Strictly speaking, I wasn't asking about "decoders" - Soundmind 04:39:40 11/11/06 (19)
- Different strokes - E-Stat 08:37:12 11/11/06 (18)
- Re: Different strokes - unclestu52 14:11:11 11/11/06 (13)
- James Bongiorno Trinaural Processor? - thetubeguy1954 07:49:37 11/13/06 (2)
- Trinaural - unclestu52 11:03:33 11/13/06 (1)
- Re: Trinaural - David Yost 04:56:15 11/16/06 (0)
- I would like to hear Ray's setup - E-Stat 18:46:26 11/11/06 (9)
- Re: I would like to hear Ray's setup - unclestu52 11:09:43 11/13/06 (0)
- E-stat, If you were a REAL engineer.... - Soundmind 05:59:23 11/13/06 (7)
- And if you were half as smart as you think you are... - morricab 04:18:28 11/14/06 (5)
- Re: And if you were half as smart as you think you are... - Soundmind 06:56:45 11/14/06 (4)
- It would be interesting if you marketed your invention - kerr 09:28:58 11/14/06 (2)
- That was twenty years ago - E-Stat 14:06:58 11/14/06 (1)
- Re: That was twenty years ago - kerr 05:07:19 11/15/06 (0)
- Re: And if you were half as smart as you think you are... - morricab 09:06:15 11/14/06 (0)
- Despite the fact you are impressed with yourself - E-Stat 07:16:02 11/13/06 (0)
- Re: Different strokes - Soundmind 10:57:20 11/11/06 (3)
- As usual, completely different takes on life - E-Stat 11:34:49 11/11/06 (2)
- Re: As usual, completely different takes on life - Soundmind 13:32:18 11/11/06 (1)
- Thus Spake SMarathustra - E-Stat 18:34:14 11/11/06 (0)