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In Reply to: I just want more of a concert hall effect at home. No need to be so condescending. (nt) posted by Lambda on November 9, 2006 at 20:14:08:
Hi Lambda!May I ask what is your ultimate "goal" in assembling an audio system? As I'm sure you're well aware of there is no one true way that works for everyone. My postion on audio is best described by saying I believe the ultimate "goal" is to find a system that has the best capababilty to replicate LIVE music. This is done while understanding all audio components are flawed. So we should all choose the audio components that possess the performance capabilities that are the most important & desireable to us and our individual listening preferences. Thus while not a perfect replication of live music, it's the closet we can get to replicating LIVE music, while using the less than perfect audio components produced today.
Of course there are naysayers who want you and everyone else to accept their audio dogma as the "correct" one. But remember there is no one true way that works for everyone! So when people begin talking about replicating live music, some people like AJinFLA did, will say: For that (to be possible) one would A) have to be present at the recording venue at the time of production B) possess perfect audio memory. The latter being impossible for mere humans, unless of course you an an audiophile, in which case such trivialities become irrelevant.
AJinFLA's comment is mostly incorrect. We posses a much greater, albeit not perfect audio memory than AJinFLA would have you believe. For example: Don't you instantly recognize the voices of your wife, children, boss and others you know well? Don't you always recognize the difference between live and recorded music? I bet you do! So you can trust that you probably possess a fairly good audio memory. But just like the audio components you'll use, it's not perfect.
As far as the other part of AJinFLA's statement that you would have to be present at the recording venue at the time of production, in order to be able to replicate live music. He's partially correct. You would need to be present at the recording venue at the time of production and at the location of the mics "IF" you wanted to replicate live music EXACTLY as it was recorded from that specific location. But do you really care if what you hear is from that EXACT location or a representation from a POV 3 ft to the left of that location? I know I don't! Also consider this, there are usually 100's of people at an acoustic event. All of them are at different locations, thus none of them are receiving the exact same ratio of direct to reflected music reaching their ears. In addition if you moved around you'd also start getting a different ratio of direct to reflected music that reached your ears as you moved. In fact I challenge you to do that at the next concert you attend. Move from one side to the other slowly and then from front to back slowly. I'm willing to bet (as I've done it) that although you'll notice some slight changes in the frequency balance of the sound when moving from side to side. You'll probably notice more of a volume change when moving front to back as opposed to levels of change in the frequency balance of the sound. What I'm saying, in so may words is, although frequency balance & volume will shift as you move about, overall it will sound pretty much the same to you. IMHO at most concerts there's just too much information going on to really do any critical listening. Although symponies are a bit easier.
So how does one learn to assemble an audio system that gets as close as possible (within our means) to replicating live music? It's really only done one way and that's by obtaining as much exposure as possible to live unamplified music, via piano's, acoustic guitars, flutes, saxes etc, as you can. So attend Jazz concerts, go to symphonies & listen to friends play their instruments live as much as possible. The reality is that listening to live unamplified musical instruments is the best way to train your ear to know what different instruments actually sound like live. Granted it's not perfect method, but it's a best option we have. Just don't give up learning just because it isn't easy. For in time just like you always recognize the difference between live and recorded music, just like you instantly recognize the voices of your wife, children, boss and others you know well, you'll always recognize the characteristics of a live piano, sax, guitar, flute etc and when it's missing from a recording or audio component. If you'll do this one thing, you'll have an upper hand on many of the others here and elsewhere in recognizing how well a given systen is replicating live music.
Keep enjoying the music -- Thetubeguy1954
It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows. - Epictetus
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- Re: I just want more of a concert hall effect at home. No need to be so condescending. (nt) - thetubeguy1954 07:53:08 11/10/06 (0)