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In Reply to: And this relates to what? posted by Bob Wortman on December 31, 2005 at 13:43:56:
It's an analogy.We observe that person A stutters while person B does not, yet there is no apparent reason why this is so, nor are there measurements--as yet--that explain it.
We observe that amp A sounds good, amp B does not, yet there is no apparent reason why this is so, and standard measurements show no difference.
Research is discovering, perhaps, why person A stutters. If it finds the reasons, then they can be measured and, perhaps, therapies developed.
Research has sometimes revealed hitherto unknown forms of distortion; measurements to quantify them and methods to reduce them soon follow. (As in the case of TIM.) What was a mystery becomes merely another aspect of performance that is measurable and thus, perhaps, "treatable."
The article is thin gruel; the first and last paragraphs are the meat (sliced thin) while the rest is stuff that's been known for years.
take care,
Mark (stutterer!)
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- Re: And this relates to what? - markrohr 14:40:34 12/31/05 (69)
- big difference - tunenut 14:11:10 01/01/06 (0)
- Sorry, y'all, the analogy fails... - Silver Eared John 14:51:34 12/31/05 (67)
- AND we see you weaseled out of a reply to the Crown preamp remark. nt - clarkjohnsen 16:32:27 01/03/06 (0)
- Actually, it works just fine. - markrohr 09:05:24 01/01/06 (51)
- Nope, y'all aren't around the idea - Silver Eared John 21:04:29 01/01/06 (50)
- Re: Nope, y'all aren't around the idea - Tre' 20:08:24 01/04/06 (1)
- Unfortunately, he is - E-Stat 13:41:29 01/07/06 (0)
- "With an amplifier... we can measure everything that it sends to the speaker." Intellectual arrogance pure and simple. n - clarkjohnsen 16:27:52 01/03/06 (47)
- Y'all just can't stop it, can y'all - Silver Eared John 18:58:30 01/03/06 (46)
- I am not sure that this is really true SEJ... - morricab 08:31:03 01/10/06 (0)
- Re: Y'all just can't stop it, can y'all - Tre' 20:10:19 01/04/06 (1)
- Those two alternatives? I'll pick #2. nt - clarkjohnsen 09:48:44 01/05/06 (0)
- Was it not true . . . - markrohr 08:33:43 01/04/06 (42)
- Gonna follow-up his non-response? nt - clarkjohnsen 09:50:00 01/05/06 (0)
- Y'all need to do some homework... - Silver Eared John 13:05:37 01/04/06 (12)
- "So, y'all, what next?"---I posted it before. Do your homework. Meanwhile, do you ever address an actual point? nt - markrohr 09:58:13 01/05/06 (3)
- Re: "So, y'all, what next?"---I posted it before. Do your homework. Meanwhile, do you ever address an actual point? nt - Dan Banquer 17:06:07 01/06/06 (2)
- Um . . . - markrohr 18:57:00 01/06/06 (1)
- Re: Um . . . - Dan Banquer 04:50:38 01/07/06 (0)
- Hey Mark! He's saying you got the dates wrong, not the argument. Congratulations. nt - clarkjohnsen 15:50:09 01/04/06 (7)
- Yep, as usual, audio was way behind the times... - Silver Eared John 18:39:03 01/05/06 (6)
- Still weaseling out of the question. Beautiful show! Shows that way deep down you're... - clarkjohnsen 09:16:10 01/06/06 (1)
- Re: Still weaseling out of the question. Beautiful show! Shows that way deep down you're... - Dan Banquer 17:10:02 01/06/06 (0)
- Would be nice if you actually answered the question: there's nothing left to learn about amplifiers? We're *done*?nt - markrohr 03:21:33 01/06/06 (3)
- Didn't say that, so why don't y'all go bother someone who did... - Silver Eared John 16:41:29 01/06/06 (2)
- Ei-yi-yi. - markrohr 19:13:21 01/06/06 (1)
- I'm not to blame for y'all inability to read. - Silver Eared John 14:51:50 01/07/06 (0)
- "How do we know when we're done?" EASY! Just ask SEJJ or jj. - clarkjohnsen 11:36:57 01/04/06 (27)
- Y'all have to keep up the stalkin' don't ye? - Silver Eared John 13:06:50 01/04/06 (26)
- "...then physics is broken." O ye of small minds! Most of the measurements made by the regnant orthodoxy... - clarkjohnsen 15:45:49 01/04/06 (25)
- Y'all awake there, fella? - Silver Eared John 23:07:35 01/04/06 (24)
- You are *so* full of it. - clarkjohnsen 09:47:15 01/05/06 (23)
- Two orthogonal scalars make a vector. - Silver Eared John 18:00:23 01/05/06 (22)
- "Frequency response" (a favorite measurement) is a scalar. THD (another) is similarly neglectful... - clarkjohnsen 09:13:52 01/06/06 (21)
- So who is suggesting we'd use that, Clark? - Silver Eared John 12:13:36 01/06/06 (20)
- Re: So who is suggesting we'd use that, Clark? - markrohr 13:07:06 01/06/06 (19)
- He's still weaseling out of the question. Beautiful! This one goes into Permanent File. nt - clarkjohnsen 09:22:16 01/07/06 (17)
- When y'all learn the difference between a scalar, a vector, and a function of 't', get back to me. - Silver Eared John 14:55:06 01/07/06 (16)
- Everyone look: WEASELING WEASELING WEASELING! nt - clarkjohnsen 08:43:14 01/08/06 (15)
- Y'all certainly are, Clark - Silver Eared John 13:49:18 01/09/06 (14)
- STILL WON'T ADDRESS QUESTION. SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF SELF. BUT ISN'T. STOP. nt - clarkjohnsen 23:32:40 01/09/06 (13)
- Well, as a sensible question, slick - Silver Eared John 23:38:33 01/09/06 (12)
- Now we may add boldfaced lying, to your miserable weaseling and your rudeness. The question plainly stated: - clarkjohnsen 00:12:57 01/10/06 (11)
- There's no question in that post, slick... - Silver Eared John 16:28:30 01/10/06 (10)
- Re: "There's no question in that post, slick." None anyway that you can answer. IN FACT THERE WERE FOUR. - clarkjohnsen 17:17:25 01/10/06 (9)
- Yeah, yeah... - Silver Eared John 19:58:03 01/10/06 (8)
- Re: No… - $orabji! 15:58:49 01/12/06 (7)
- Please, no substance! No direct answers! ;-) - markrohr 11:53:43 01/13/06 (6)
- Shame y'all couldn't google for 10 seconds... - Silver Eared John 13:15:08 01/13/06 (5)
- When you're interested in conversing rather than preening get back to me. nt - markrohr 15:10:29 01/13/06 (4)
- When y'all interested in real discussion, y'all get back to me. - Silver Eared John 17:42:10 01/13/06 (3)
- Re: When y'all interested in real discussion, y'all get back to me. - markrohr 07:49:16 01/14/06 (2)
- Also... - Silver Eared John 20:52:58 01/14/06 (0)
- Let me explain... - Silver Eared John 20:50:35 01/14/06 (0)
- Don't try to fool me,, son, that's not suggesting the use of a "scalar"... - Silver Eared John 13:29:49 01/06/06 (0)
- And still not really understand what causes qualitative differences - E-Stat 08:12:51 01/01/06 (13)
- Well, actually, y'all ought to go to the literature - Silver Eared John 21:05:27 01/01/06 (2)
- Ah yes, the literature! - E-Stat 06:27:32 01/02/06 (1)
- Re: Ah yes, the literature! - Dan Banquer 07:23:41 01/02/06 (0)
- Clueless in Atlanta - Dan Banquer 15:14:11 01/01/06 (6)
- Tell me, Dan - E-Stat 06:24:38 01/02/06 (5)
- Clueless in Atlanta - Dan Banquer 07:15:02 01/02/06 (4)
- Not familiar with the concept of a "rhetorical question" ? - E-Stat 07:54:58 01/02/06 (3)
- Nothing Knee Jerk about it. - Dan Banquer 08:07:48 01/02/06 (2)
- So, what's a "yer" ? (nt) - E-Stat 08:17:04 01/02/06 (1)
- Well, about 3/4 of a mongolian house? - Silver Eared John 21:06:00 01/02/06 (0)
- You are a cruel man - kerr 13:40:47 01/01/06 (1)
- Yep - E-Stat 06:57:36 01/02/06 (0)
- Yup, had one in the early 70s. Though I'd *kill* to have a panorama control again! nt - markrohr 09:52:22 01/01/06 (0)
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