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I made a couple of different versions of XLR cables using Duelund wire. Both braided, but one braided onto a cotton core.
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I take it that these are the 20 GA cotton/oil. Is it 3 or 2 wires? Looks like 2 (nothing connected to pin 1)?
I used 3 wires...true XLR connection all the way....no need to leave out the 3rd wire. I purchased a lot of wire, still have a few sets of single-ended cables to make. I need to purchase some connectors for my single-ended wires though.
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Thanks.
Is it the 20 ga cotton/oil?
No its DCA26GA tinned solid copper wire in cotton and oil.
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If its better sound you're after....and if you're using balanced components, you're spinning your wheels. All balanced cables sound very much the same when connecting balanced components.
"If its better sound you're after....and if you're using balanced components, you're spinning your wheels. All balanced cables sound very much the same when connecting balanced components."
This doesn't say that in your experience you didn't hear a difference.
This is a broad brush proclamation.
Your experience is just that - your experience. Others can and do differ.
The notion that a balanced interface, whether line-level or AES/EBU digital are somehow unaffected by differences in cable and connectors is a common misconception, often perpetuated by misinformation, if not inexperience. I've built and evaluated many balanced cable and XLR connector combinations, and each build presents very distinctive differences, with notable sonic signatures being as pronounced as any other type of cable, including single ended rca interconnects and 75 ohm digital coaxial cables. Just because a balanced interface features differential signals does not mean metallurgy, dielectrics, and geometry are a moot point. If it were true it would make no sense, since the differential circuitry at the sending and receiving ends is about noise reduction, not the intrinsic nature of all cables and connectors regardless of the special I/O circuits involved in a balanced cable interface.
I can certainly hear a difference between every type of cable in my system[s].
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"All balanced cables sound very much the same when connecting balanced components."
Were you always able to hear sound via other people's ears or did you learn this talent?
Much like on paper bits are bits and all digital 'as long as its bit perfect' sounds the same. I can't tell you how long I tried to listen with my eyes and tell my brain I was hearing the same thing. For some reason these things just don't work for me...:-(
Anyways, its a hobby....what I'm after is having fun with my hobby. I'm meeting my goals. :-)
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Actually, Dynobot.....I'm revealing my experience. I've had Kimber, Purist, Wireworld, Audioquest, and others in my system....I'm using all Ayre components. Speaker cables make a difference but not with differentially balanced interconnects.
Thanks for the clarification.
There are many factors at play, including our individual environments and hearing.
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Thank you.
Look forward to the results.
I've been looking into that 20ga wire you've been talking about. Have you used it for any projects? I'm wondering what I could use it for...
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I have (2) 4' pairs I tried with Klipsch La Scalas (wires from tweeter to crossover). Sounded a little thin to me. Used the Duelund 16 GA version (Tin-Plated, Stranded Copper, Cotton/Oil (DCA16GA) instead.
There is a thread on Audiogon discussing ICs made from this 20 and 16 GA wire.
This link also addresses RCA and XLR ICs:
http://www.image99.net/blog/files/category-002a002a-the-helix-image-interconnect.html
You will need to scroll down a bit to get to the section on XLR ICs.
Hey Davem1
I ran a three-wire run for each + and - for a single-ended version. This gave me 21ga, I can agree that the sound does seem a bit fuller but still retains very good clarity. I would say the low end to mid-low is more 'assured' sounding. Not night and day but more consistently full.
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Thanks
Interesting read....it appears he likes stranded wire....also the 20ga.Personally I like solid core for IC's, either XLR or Single-ended. I also looked at some [Mundorf silver/gold wire, 0.5mm dia, SGW105], but I think I bought enough Duelund to meet my needs.
I agree, the 26ga did sound thin to me at first but after a week or so it bloomed....this is speaking only of the thin braided XLR not the braided over cotton core.
I also don't like to cover my cables in unnecessary garments, as it does dull the sound to my ears.
For speaker wires I use Duelund DCA12GA tinned copper multistrand wire in cotton and oil, unterminated.
Next up....I'm going to play with some Duelund Caps.
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