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In Reply to: RE: You may say I'm picky.. posted by cheap-Jack on November 07, 2007 at 07:33:11
I am about to address the flipping around angle with pics in other post.
Thanks,
James Locke
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Hi.
with the photo of showing part of yr listening room.
Here is my suggestion basing on the limited info you so far furnished:-
(1) this is apparently a somewhat rectangular room & yu are listening along the short side. Pretty close to yr loudspeakers.
(2) the open space beyond the right loudspeaker. Avoid it if possible.
I would suggest you swing yr loudspeakers (& therefore tube power amps) 90 degree to your left (anti-clockwise) so that they will be sitting some distance from yr side wall with curtain & jelly acoustical treatment covering the window bank behind.
Get rid of the long sofa & replace it with a smaller sofa or reclined leather lazyboy or even a smaller lover seat if your wife also shares your hobby.
Now you will have yr sweet spot at a much longer throw from the loudspeakers, which you need so badly & have the acoustical headache much much reduced from the french door partition which will be at your right, instead of at the back of yr loudspeakers, the most crucial acoutical part of a sound room.
Then you can focuss at your music without distraction from the traffic behind the french door anymore. My way.
Even better acoustically, you allow the music flow through well beyond yr sweet spot into the other room which will definitely give you much more spaceous & ambience feeling of the performance from your LPs particularly (I know as I own many hundreds of vinyls).
Would it be much better considering yu are now listening up against the back wall with a tall pile of LPs stuffed up? Acoustically unsound, my friend.
You don't have to move your equipment rack any more though I would suggest you to move the rack of your LPs into the other room if space available. Tall racks of LPs only worsen the acosutics as they defuse the FIRST reflected wave from yr loudspeaker to your ears.
Just my way. It's your choice.
c-J
If I change 90 degrees to left like you suggest, what do you think about the fact that I will then have a wall behing me on speaker right side and open on the left. Do you think that this be be a problem? I have taken a pic sitting directly center facing what would be rear wall in that position so you can see for your self.
Sofa is just a love seat
My listening postion is over 3 feet away from records, and over 4 feet from the wall
Room is 164x200 inches
You say sweet spot better - farther from speakers, but won't I be closer to speakers in this set-up since room won't be as deep? If it was completely open behind me I would try without hesitation.
I would still have to move equipment out of closet, or have to get longer rca cables (15 feet already)
Thanks for the input
James Locke
Hi.
What "open on the left"? The second photo showed most part of the rear wall, showing part of the long lover seat, but no opening. Why don't you show us all four sides of the room to be be clear.
A large opening, even though not completely open without any wall is better than you now sitting only a few feet with the rear wall stuffed with tall LP racks.
A 13ft x 17ft room is not too small given proper clearing out & re-arrangement. Less means more, my friend.
If I were to design such a layout, I would do what I just sugested, with the sweet spot backing the adjoining living room opening/wall. I'd surely get a small single seat so as not to block the entry to the living room at the back.
c-J
Here is foruth pic so you can see all 4 walls.
What I was trying to say in other post was that if I set up on long wall with curtains in this fourth pic behind them like you suggested would the fact that I now have a partial wall behind me, and not completely open (view of pic 3)be a problem?
And would I not, in that set up, be sitting closer to back wall (part that is not open, other part would be open)than in my current arrangement? Do you not think that would also be a problem?
One more question, would you definately feel this arrangment would be better than flipping my current set up onto opposite wall?
And should I ditch the records? I can do that.
Just want to figure these things out before I start dragging the equipment around
Thanks for the patience,
James Locke
Hi.
Is the window wall, a real permanent wall or a wide patio door exit to yr backyard, popular to many North American home designs.
c-J
But it has a bank of 3 windows that are each 6 feet tall & 3 feet wide.
Hi.
What ceiling & ceiling finish is it since yr photos did not show? Hard paster or what? Hollow or solid?
What distance are you now stting from the loudspeakers? It looks pretty too close to you considering the size of them.
Are you happy to add or replace the drapes now covering the window wall with a heavier thick cotton or woollen curtain to block out the sunlight while you are playing the music?
Again I have a very busy morning & I got to rush out for a lunch meeting now. Let me reply you tomorrow.
c-J
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