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In Reply to: RE: ISO relaxed, non-fatiguing DAC posted by Mike K on May 27, 2025 at 05:49:29
One word and it's not "plastics": Geshelli.
They have so many options. I have the J3, which I recommend. Almost everyone says it beats the J2. Of course, if price is a major factor, the J2 has a good reputation.
The J3 allows switching opamps. That could allow to you customize the sound. I went with the stock opamps: TI OPA1656. Excellent sound. It transformed my system.
My real interest was the Sparkos 2590. The 2590s aren't listed but they are available from Geshelli. They ship separately because they can come loose in transport and cause damage. Switching them is no big deal. There's a video on YouTube by Geshelli showing how to do it.
The Burson V7 Vivid Pro is supposed to rival the Sparkos 2590. I haven't heard the Burson.
The Sparkos 2590 was better than the TI OPA1656 but not dramatically. I could easily have lived with the TI and been very happy. The basic stock opamps make the J3 a remarkable bargain.
I have yet to read anything negative about the J3, given its price.
I'm not completely clear what is meant by fatiguing, perhaps because I've never experienced it. I do know that I never get tired of listening to the J3, so it must not be fatiguing.
Let me know if you have any questions. And feel free to e-mail me if you want.
Good luck.
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I don't really understand 'fatiguing' either in the context of listening to music. I suppose it's a real thing for some people but when I listen to music, even for a very long time non-stop, it is very enjoyable and never 'fatiguing'.
that pretty much describes most sound reinforced venues. Hard and edgy sound that grates on ones hearing even if not played at ear bleeding levels.Even comparatively tame musical events at the large university auditorium fit that bill. I can take only so much before needing to leave.
Fortunately even modestly priced gear today doesn't do that to me like it did in the 70s. Think Crown amplification. I remain amazed at the value my $200 Fosi integrated/DAC provides. With smooth sounding results using commodity TPA3255 and 5532 chips. Sins of omission are easier to forgive. :)
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My personal definition of "fatigue" is that it sets in over a period of time. I have never experienced this fatigue in the context of listening to music probably because I will quickly get rid of any offending equipment or source material.Older Bryston amps in decades past would be fatiguing if given the chance. The immediate ear bleed they inflict will hit you way before fatigue sets in prompting you to shut it down fast. Decades ago I auditioned Bryston and Classe and chose the latter.
On the other hand, some overly smooth and polite gear will snooze me to sleep with boredom. Striking a balance for ones preference is the trick.
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That's a useful point of view. Thanks. It helps explain the term.
I was thinking, "What the hell are they talking about?".
I continue to put "Fatiguing" right up there with "PRAT". ;-)
I have never experienced "fatiguing" in the context of listening to music. I can get to "toe tapping" with a transistor radio but I prefer the setup in my listening room.
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