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In Reply to: RE: Why everything sounds so f compressed is anybody's guess. Nt posted by Geoffkait on May 26, 2025 at 08:22:07
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Not everything is compressed, it just SOUNDS compressed. Everything sounds compressed.
So then if it sounds uncompressed or even less compressed does that means it is actually uncompressed or less compressed?
Relative to what?
You're the one saying "Why everything sounds so f compressed is anybody's guess".
If everything sounds so f compressed what is your reference? When I'm standing next to some guy using a jack hammer it sure doesn't sound compressed to me.
My point is that although CDs boast a very high dynamic range, that was their big selling point. But, in practice/reality they sound compressed, all of them, some more than others. Cassettes, by comparison, as a reference, don't sound that way at all. They sound relatively uncompressed, some more than others. Not only that but CDs boast a very high SNO, yet CDs generally sound distorted, very distorted, as well as noisy.
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At least we are talking about audio. I don't know but most LPs I own sound compressed compared to hearing music live even good recordings of live music has some degree of compression.I'll even concede given a quality cassette recorder might have a better chance of making a better sounding recording of an LP than a 16 bit recorder or even a 24 bit recorder. I'm betting it's more about resolution than dynamic range. But what difference does it make if you can't put it in a music library and front it with a GUI or music player or put it on a DAP.
Isn't it true that cassette tapes had typical limits of 40hz and 10khz?
And FWIW it was "Perfect Sound Forever" and I took it to mean no more tapes being ate as much as it did about ticks and pops. I'm not sure where the sound quality thing comes into play but far as I know it's always been a subjective thing. I couldn't come to grips with digital until sometime in the 00s but since then I've needed a CDP for at least getting albums that weren't released on vinyl.
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We are not on the same page. I am not intimidated by the measurements crowd.
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I am not intimidated by the measurements crowd.
Yet you started off right at the beginning talking about the dynamic range of a CD and how it they sound compressed and noisy to you? I'm thinking this is more an issue of resolution than dynamic range but that noisy seems more than a big reach when comparing with cassettes which almost always were inundated with noise when I've heard them.
Everything sounds compressed because most of it is - otherwise it would be mostly worthless for most playback environments. Funny how that's only obvious to you on CDs.
But that's my subjective observation. Follow? That's kind of the whole point.
Yep I follow. Not an objectivist. More of a defensive contrarian pseudo scientist pretending to be a subjectivist. If I really liked cassettes would have been doing the comparison with LPs and resting the case on the similarities with the master tape as opposed to some rock sliding around on grooves cut into a slab of vinyl. Not trying to misconstrue a CDs dynamic range potential as evidence of whatever subjective point you were trying to make.
Cassettes are obviously a viable source for music and for those who want to use them for whatever purpose. I think its really cool when folks prefer them to LPs or CDs and could accept whatever reasoning subjective or objective on why provided, but even a simple "I think they sound better" would suffice. Funny how you start with the pseudo-science then revert into it's just my subjective opinion when asked about it. I thought there was an interesting conversation here (actually a couple of different ones), maybe with some who understood it chiming in, but I guess not.
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You are overthinking it. I go strictly by the sound. Please note that in my world nothing is obvious.
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