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In Reply to: RE: That's not really a goid example. posted by Geoffkait on May 27, 2025 at 14:01:11
At least we are talking about audio. I don't know but most LPs I own sound compressed compared to hearing music live even good recordings of live music has some degree of compression.I'll even concede given a quality cassette recorder might have a better chance of making a better sounding recording of an LP than a 16 bit recorder or even a 24 bit recorder. I'm betting it's more about resolution than dynamic range. But what difference does it make if you can't put it in a music library and front it with a GUI or music player or put it on a DAP.
Isn't it true that cassette tapes had typical limits of 40hz and 10khz?
And FWIW it was "Perfect Sound Forever" and I took it to mean no more tapes being ate as much as it did about ticks and pops. I'm not sure where the sound quality thing comes into play but far as I know it's always been a subjective thing. I couldn't come to grips with digital until sometime in the 00s but since then I've needed a CDP for at least getting albums that weren't released on vinyl.
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We are not on the same page. I am not intimidated by the measurements crowd.
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I am not intimidated by the measurements crowd.
Yet you started off right at the beginning talking about the dynamic range of a CD and how it they sound compressed and noisy to you? I'm thinking this is more an issue of resolution than dynamic range but that noisy seems more than a big reach when comparing with cassettes which almost always were inundated with noise when I've heard them.
Everything sounds compressed because most of it is - otherwise it would be mostly worthless for most playback environments. Funny how that's only obvious to you on CDs.
But that's my subjective observation. Follow? That's kind of the whole point.
Yep I follow. Not an objectivist. More of a defensive contrarian pseudo scientist pretending to be a subjectivist. If I really liked cassettes would have been doing the comparison with LPs and resting the case on the similarities with the master tape as opposed to some rock sliding around on grooves cut into a slab of vinyl. Not trying to misconstrue a CDs dynamic range potential as evidence of whatever subjective point you were trying to make.
Cassettes are obviously a viable source for music and for those who want to use them for whatever purpose. I think its really cool when folks prefer them to LPs or CDs and could accept whatever reasoning subjective or objective on why provided, but even a simple "I think they sound better" would suffice. Funny how you start with the pseudo-science then revert into it's just my subjective opinion when asked about it. I thought there was an interesting conversation here (actually a couple of different ones), maybe with some who understood it chiming in, but I guess not.
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You are overthinking it. I go strictly by the sound. Please note that in my world nothing is obvious.
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