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In Reply to: RE: That's WAY too much information, Mister! LoL! (nt) posted by robert.gaboury@videotron.ca on May 22, 2009 at 04:46:06
>All reviewers work more or less for a manufacturer at some point, either
>formally or informally.
This is incorrect. And in the few instances here it is true, this
magazine's writers don't work for any manufacturers while they are on the
magazine's masthead. See the link below, where it says "Stereophile
reviewers and editors do not act as paid or unpaid consultants for audio
companies. During the review process, reviewers confine their interactions
with manufacturers to logistics and social pleasantries. The purpose of
the review process is to inform the readers, not to assist in behind-
the-scenes product development, no matter how flattering that may be. It
should go without saying that the usual rules of journalistic integrity
apply. Other than meals, and travel expenses for factory visits,
Stereophile's reviewers and editors do not accept from manufacturers
payments or gifts worth more than $100."
> If I remember correctly, Johnathan Scull worked for Furutech...
Still does. But it was _after_ he left Stereophile and was no longer on
the magazine's masthead. Would you prefer Jonathan collect unemployment?
John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile
Edits: 05/26/09Follow Ups:
Gifts are limited to $100. Accomodation pricing on a pair of big W speakers might be well above $25000. That's 250 times higher than the "gift" limit. Either reviewers are too poor to buy full retail (like all customers) and manufacturer wants to help for altruistic reasons alone (hum), or manufacturers expect said pair might profit on the long run.
> Gifts are limited to $100. Accomodation pricing on a pair of big W
> speakers might be well above $25000. That's 250 times higher than
> the "gift" limit.
So what? As has been pointed out to you, the discount pricing, which is
around the product's wholesale price, is available from all manufacturers
to anyone involved in the audio industry. As has been asked of you before
in this thread but which you chose to ignore, where is the opportunity
for corrupt behavior in this scenario?And in addition, reviewers cannot purchase products until after they
review it and cannot resell it for an agreed length of time. And in your
example, the reviewer still has to find the $25,000, which hardly makes
it a "gift."> Either reviewers are too poor to buy full retail (like all customers)
> and manufacturer wants to help for altruistic reasons alone (hum), or
> manufacturers expect said pair might profit on the long run.
You are also ignoring the fact that reviewers, unlike regular customers,
have to purchase multiple components, if their value judgments are not to
emerge from a vacuum.
All these facts have been explained on this forum in the past; I don't
comprehend why you find it so difficult to use the site's search engine.
John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile
Edits: 05/26/09
I see it's a touchy subject.
A forum is a two way communication tool. As in dialogue. If you do not want to discuss a business practice that non-reviewers (as in "most of your readers") might want to discuss or even question, just move on and skip the subject alltogether.
There is no need to be so defensive, unless you feel you need to defend what seems to be a common practice upon hi-fi reviewers - and not journalists.
> There is no need to be so defensive, unless you feel you need to defend
> what seems to be a common practice upon hi-fi reviewers - and not
> journalists.
This subject has been raised many times in the past and I have posted
comprehensive replies and explanations. You were recommended to read
those responses, which you can find with the "Search" function. I don't
see that as too much of a hardship for you. However, it seems you prefer
I do all that work for you. :-(
John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile
"If you do not want to discuss a business practice that non-reviewers (as in "most of your readers") might want to discuss or even question, just move on and skip the subject alltogether."
This has been discussed ad nauseam.
You were asked to use the search feature and instead of doing that, you want to continue without reading what's gone before.
Let's not assign guilt unless we've done our due diligence.
Best regards,
Jim Smith
Oh Please go get a grip!
This subject which you have happened upon has been dredged up ad nauseum!!!!
JA isn't touchy about the subject, just fed up of having to the defend the bridge one more bloody time
I am an Aussie
I live in Perth Australia
I have never met JA
I am not on their (Sphile) payroll
I have never received a discount based on the fact i know anything or anyone
And no there is not a world wide conspiracy by Stereophile to make people by expensive equipment,or infiltrate ur drinking water: PS watch out for the Coke a Cola Machine!
Enjoy
DD
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