In Reply to: RE: Should be "Do USB filters make DACs MEASURE bette?r"... posted by fmak on February 18, 2021 at 04:30:26:
It is one thing to look at an eye pattern.
You could as well measure the noise at the DAC input. We've seen that these USB filters do what they are supposed to do.
We havn't clearly seen a correlation of changes on the input vs. changes on the output.
If @DAC-out you find femto seconds jitter level and noise beyond -120dB,
irrelevant THD, what else are we looking for?
* ground loops
* EMC/EMI/RFI
* impedance issues
* power issues
What I am saying, what happens on the digital upstream side is basically irrelevant if no bits are changed or lost.
I can remember we had these eye pattern discussions a long time ago.
A lot has changed on the DAC side.
Designers focus much more on the input nowadays I guess. The new XMOS versions are much better. Asf. Asf.
Bottom line. I do not consider this eye pattern thing a convincing argument.
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- RE: Should be "Do USB filters make DACs MEASURE bette?r"... - soundchekk 05:24:31 02/18/21 (5)
- RE: Should be "Do USB filters make DACs MEASURE bette?r"... - fmak 05:39:02 02/18/21 (4)
- RE: Should be "Do USB filters make DACs MEASURE bette?r"... - Ryelands 09:32:16 02/18/21 (0)
- RE: Should be "Do USB filters make DACs MEASURE bette?r"... - soundchekk 05:53:34 02/18/21 (2)
- RE: Should be "Do USB filters make DACs MEASURE bette?r"... - fmak 08:03:38 02/18/21 (0)
- "I am pretty sure you can measure what we hear" In practice, no - Dave_K 07:26:58 02/18/21 (0)