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In Reply to: RE: I have tried all of the products you listed in the past... posted by Dawnrazor on December 23, 2023 at 09:25:30
LOL don't snort the stuff. The only thing that matters is does the tweak improve the performance of your sound system?
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I was able to do 6 outlets, 3 light switches and one breaker in the sub panel before I snorted all the salt. No tuning, just install. Sorry good luck with me tuning. Anyhow it sounds cleaner and more nuanced with fine details that used to get lost. Bass is more resolving and staging is a touch wider. Will keep at it. Thanks again.
Also, I have some power strips with outlets on them. Will treating those help, or is the outlet enough?
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You can place a 1 gram wrap at the wire out of a SMPS (works well here also) on a power strip but would not treat the individual outlet of a power strip, may over damp. Of course there is nothing preventing you from experimenting.
I personally would stick with treating the junctions, whether on the same circuit or not. Notice the more junctions you treat the more resolving your system is getting? And of course tuning at each junction offers the best balance and performance, but that is your call.
7 outlets
11 light switches
7 SMPS
3 PoE connections on my switch
1 breaker at a sub panelsounding really clean
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Nah, nah, none of that "sounding really clean" generality, D! We want details, like CDC seems to suggest. Tell you what, remove half of them salt bags for a comparo, and then remove the rest also. Report the increasing levels of depression felt as you accomplish this.
Anyway, you can be much more colorful about SQ changes. I've seen you do it! :)
Sorry to disappoint. I added some color to a post with cdc below. Everything is just bigger. Bass though is a bit smaller but with more definition. Its like when looking at a microscope and everything is out of focus and when you focus it, the image is now smaller but clearer.
There is a sweet tone too that I am getting.
I will try to get specific. There is a song that is recorded a bit bright and I use it to test the highs. These days I am listening on electrostatic earbuds and the highs are super transparent. Anyhow its harder to listen to that song loud....it gets to a point where its too bright. Anyhow, now I can crank that track and the highs are listenable and even enjoyable. Its like there is enough separation not to overwhelm.
I used to wonder what happened on that track.
Here is the track if you want to listen, though I can't vouch for Youtube quality:
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Yes, I read the one you expanded on earlier, much appreciated.As I read what you posted now, I was reminded of Tazsmonn's xover (which YOU "made me" try:) and of an "imaging effect" it caused. This was in 2009. I was on my way to finalizing the line-level xover for my Maggies and, suddenly, I just knew that I had to find a way to replicate this "imaging effect" with the new xover. This led me to eventually discover Al Sekela's chokes.
The point I'd like to make is that my discovery of Al's choke tweak's virtues was due to the rich and detailed manner in which several people described their effect . It was shocking to hear folks with higher-end Maggies describe what my MMGs were also doing but with Tazsmonn's xover (despite its other limitations). As a result, my MMGs got Al Sekela's chokes (but not Tazsmonn's design limitations), all thanks to those ample descriptions .
Hell, it was YOUR good descriptions of your own MMG's sound which led me to the realization that yours and mine were of the same design generation. Which explained why their highs were so clean and their bass stronger...much more so after tweaks.
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Cool man. Man audio is a journey. I wish I could set up my maggies and listen. I had just built my stands and was super excited to listen but it never materialized.
It is a good description that "imaging effect" you mention. I think this tweak is working along the same lines. Maybe get a trashcan size bag and fill with salt :)
Are you planning to do measurements/ tuning? Or just jump in like I did?
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Hey DR,
About 2010 or so, I installed those shorting rca plugs in the unused inputs on my pre-amp. I also installed rca caps in the unused outputs on my pre-amp.
This tweak was immediately apparent. Sounded like what you described happened to your treble after you applied the salt packs!
I am going to get started with the salt packs after I finish burning in a power cord and in breaking in a new pair of input tubes.
Glad this salt tweak is working for you and others!!
Exactly. I did the same and even capped unused usb and word clock ins and outs and aes/ebu and rca. So the salt helps even if you have done the shorting plugs.
yikes I just realized the dac I am using has open connections and I am out of shorting plugs. Woe is me...
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Nice, glad you like the tweak. The more of the AC wiring in the home treated, the better the performance. This project became very interesting for me when I realized this.
You mentioned "sounding really clean". Can you elaborate on what you are hearing that changed after applying the tweak as you have?
Soundstage is more 3d and the background is blacker. The sound is "bigger" and more resolving. I find myself playing things louder than before because of the absence of distortion that would equate to loud.
The bass is better defined and while smaller, its def more 3d and warmer.
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Yep..... that description puts us on the same page ;)
I will add that dynamics scale with greater ease and clarity. This especially noticeable on vocals. So basically, I'm getting a less confused presentation when things get dynamic and complex.
Well said. I would also say that there is more 3d texture to those voices.
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