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In Reply to: RE: You got it partially right posted by Aristarchus on November 27, 2019 at 20:42:06

Zat all you got? Lytic vs copper foil? Get real.
Chris is a great salesman, knows his stuff. He clearly recommends 2 Hz cutoff. If you can't comprehend that, reread his blurb. He also charges a fortune for his capacitors, so he might be motivated to sell you smaller ones because no one can afford the larger values. There are many, many choices for caps that are the correct value and sound quite wonderful that do not cost as much as CuTF or other V-caps.
berate is 8 and benign is 9

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RE: reductio ad absurdum - Aristarchus 00:15:42 11/28/19 (0)
"Disclaimer: A 2Hz -3db point is a general guideline, based on our own experience, as well as the experience of many audiophiles, and modificaiton professionals who have shared their experiences with us. As with all things in high end audio, there is no magic bullet or perfect fix for every system and every application. We encourage you to experiment (with many different values and series of V-Caps, of course), listen for yourself, and reach your own conclusions." Chris VenHaus's "clear" recommendation of 2hz and nothing but 2hz?

"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell-1984
RE: reductio ad absurdum - Aristarchus 23:22:55 11/27/19 (5)
Chris VenHaus owner of VH Audio. As to getting "real" about the difference between a cheap or even a high quality electrolytic capacitor or a high quality say copper foil capacitor IN THE SIGNAL PATH I can't even begin to understand why you would make that an issue of any controversy. Perhaps there is some phase shift in your brain waves?? Above 2hz of course. Maybe you should shorten your name to Madears son.

"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell-1984
- watch it - madisonears 09:07:33 11/28/19 (4)
  Don't continue with personal insults. They achieve nothing. If you want to discuss audio topics like an adult without calling me names, I'll be happy to do so.
  
  I know very well who Chris is; been dealing with him for years. I also know the difference between the electrical and sonic characteristics of electrolytic vs film/foil caps. There is a broad range of materials, construction, and quality between a cheap lytic and a copper foil cap, in a broad range of cost. That's why I thought your initial argument was absurd. It's not a choice between only those two extremes. And it is not worth compromising low freq response to save a few bucks on a coupling cap.
  
  Competent designers aim for a 2 Hz or lower cutoff. There is no debate there, despite your silly comment about whether phase changes can be detected at low freq's. I'm not sure you know what phase means in that context.
  berate is 8 and benign is 9
  - RE: watch it - Aristarchus 09:56:34 11/28/19 (3)
    "Zat all you got? Lytic vs copper foil? Get real." That's not an insult? Did you not intimate a disparagement of Chris by implying he is giving out false info for profit?
    
    "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell-1984
    - RE: watch it - davem1 12:35:09 11/28/19 (2)
      Aristarchus
      
      This guy is repeatedly nasty and negative, spews veiled (or not so veiled) insults - and then tries (and fails dismally) to pretend that he has not engaged in any of the above.
      
      Any contributions he may have are more than offset by this behavior.
      - Thanks for your contribution n/t - madisonears 20:06:21 11/28/19 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: watch it posted by davem1 on November 28, 2019 at 12:35:09
        
        n/t
        berate is 8 and benign is 9
      - RE: watch it - Aristarchus 18:45:23 11/28/19 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: watch it posted by davem1 on November 28, 2019 at 12:35:09
        
        Thanks for the heads up Dave. I sure didn't see any need for that type of interaction especially since I was pretty much parroting and presenting a seemingly very well respected source of info and audio grade parts. Anyhow ,the OP has gotten his question answered, situation explained and knows what to do and hopefully others have found useful info also. A of S
        
        "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell-1984

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