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In Reply to: RE: Orgonite posted by thom70 on May 03, 2018 at 03:14:52

Here's another YOutube you might want to look at instead: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01BrUDWVZKo

I was one of the early ones investigating the effect of SOME (not all) crystals on RFI. Success was only achieved consistently with truly piezoelectric (and pyroelectric too) substances in small sizes. So tourmaline works as do quartz. You can look up those old posts in the archives. There is a valid reason that they work. Just any old "crystal" is not likely to do anything useful.

This stuff you're looking at hearkens back to the New Age nonsense about crystals and pyramidal shapes, etc. I can't seem to find what actual crystals or metals may be in those Orgonite matrices, but I can tell you that we never found large chunks like those pictured to be effective.

Just my two cents, lurking back here after a long hiatus. YMMV.

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RE: Let's get real here - watchdogsg 03:49:51 05/04/18 (6)
Bartc, when you say small sized, exactly how small are you referring to ? I noticed that the crystals supplied with my Acoustic Revive stuff are quite large.
- here are some old posts to get you started - bartc 21:00:20 05/04/18 (4)
  https://db.audioasylum.com/mhtml/m.html?forum=tweaks&n=176044&highlight=crystal+bartc&r=&search_url=%2Fcgi%2Fsearch.mpl%3Fsearchtext%3Dcrystal%26b%3DAND%26topic%3D%26topics_only%3DN%26author%3Dbartc%26date1%3D%26date2%3D%26slowmessage%3D%26sort%3Ddate%26sortOrder%3DDESC%26forum%3Dtweaks
  
  https://db.audioasylum.com/mhtml/m.html?forum=tweaks&n=193700&highlight=crystal+bartc&r=&search_url=%2Fcgi%2Fsearch.mpl%3Fsearchtext%3Dcrystal%26b%3DAND%26topic%3D%26topics_only%3DN%26author%3Dbartc%26date1%3D%26date2%3D%26slowmessage%3D%26sort%3Ddate%26sortOrder%3DDESC%26forum%3Dtweaks
  - RE: here are some old posts to get you started - bartc 10:56:13 05/05/18 (0)
    I chose mineral oil for a very specific reason, and it worked well with both Al's and my equipment. Significantly improved the effect.
    
    Simply not sure dielectric grease would work as well, and you aren't saying that it really did much.
    
    Meantime, the impacts were not subtle most often, but they wouldn't completely knock your socks off either. That would depend upon where you placed them and how much RFI was extant in your system. So no guarantees it would work in all cases, especially if you weren't in a 110V country, as I have no experience with them in 220V systems.
    
    A lot also depends on how "revealing" your system happens to be too. YMMV is true.
  - Crystal stuff which work usually have to be treated.. - toothpaste 06:54:38 05/05/18 (1)
    I tried various piezoelectric crystals in 2mm to 3mm size, polished/tumbled.
    I treated mine with dielectric grease.
    Put in small baggies 4cm by 8cm and pressed flat to about 5mm thickness.
    Using a voltage detector, the baggies had to be pressed flat so few to no voids. Loose crystals (in the bags) did not stop the RFI/EMI butf they were pressed tight flat they did stop the RFI EMI.
    J made like 50 baggies all different quartz associates.
    Spent $100 on the rocks.
    
    I am over that now. The small difference was just not worth the bother.
    But they are still in my outlets etc. LOL
    And I have baggies of greased small rocks piled up with no where to go.
    - RE: Crystal stuff which work usually have to be treated.. - Tweaker456 00:24:13 05/22/18 (0)
      Crystals with dielectric grease? The whole issue is like idiots playing with toys.
      "No one knows a damn thing for real.When it's time to die. Fucking DIE." Inmate toothpaste
  - RE: here are some old posts to get you started - watchdogsg 05:51:58 05/05/18 (0)
    Thanks Bartc,
    
    The Acoustic Revive crystals supplied with the platforms are quite small then. Less than 5mm diameter on average.
- RE: Let's get real here - bartc 05:27:18 05/04/18 (0)
  The size optimum probably varies with the particular composition of the crystal, so I can't generalize to all substances. However, with most silicate crystals the size that seemed to work was between 1/8" and 3/8" or so. I'm guessing here, because that was a decade ago for me. Over half an inch and they didn't seem to work as well. You'll have to consult with other experimenters to see their experience.
  
  There are other ways to employ crystals besides just their naked natural form. In various matrices they can work, in combination they can certainly work. In damping fluids/gels they can work even better, IME.
  
  Go back to the archives and research what we did 10 years ago with them if you want more details.
  
  To work, their proximity to the source of RFI is necessary. And because there is wave phenomena at work here too, various placements on cords have more effect than others.
  
  But the one thing they do not do is magic! That stuff about crystals in the next room, pyramids, etc., is just magical thinking. Sorry if that opinion offends anyone.

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