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Ah those ions!

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In Reply to: RE: My apologies, Bart posted by unclestu on March 25, 2015 at 19:07:23

Stu, I may have been one of the first to push the Purvine tweak onto AA, and it did indeed work very well for me. But honestly I never understood how it could possibly have done so!
The whole ionic theory cluster goes right over my head. I've heard it in everything from scientific explanations to New Age claptrap. I don't doubt ions, ionic effects, etc. I just cannot wrap my head around some of this enough to explain it to myself!
Let's not even try for quantum mechanics! Giggle......

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RE: Ah those ions! - unclestu 20:11:28 03/25/15 (3)
Winston Smith got annoyed at my reluctance (actually read laziness) to try the Purvine tweak and actually made up a set for me to try.

I was shocked. Based on all my physics and stuff there was nothing to fall back on for an explanation. Since then I have been much more careful about experimenting even with the weirdest concepts and very careful not to discount anything.

The feared word quantum seems to crop up more and more these days, but what is shocking is that subatomic qualities can make audible differences, it seems. What I can not fathom is that the human perception can detect such changes (or at least some of us can).

Try the salt tratment, I would be honored to hear your impresssions
- Of human auditory perception - bartc 20:36:43 03/25/15 (2)
  It's been years since I read all that theory on auditory perception, but human hearing is actually the most "exquisite" of the senses.
  We can distinguish about 10,000 different tones and changes in them and volume in a few femtoseconds (50,000th of seconds for those reading who don't know this alreeady).
  What we can perceive is utterly remarkable.
  Then take into consideration those other intertwined sensory pathways. For example, how is it possible to perceive below 20hz and above 20Khz, but there is enough evidence that we can. We don't perceive them precisely via the ear canal, it seems, but we do register them in the body somehow and the brain interprets and interpolates them with the normal hearing range.
  As to quantum mechanics, what little I did understand in college and since scares the shit out of me!
  Unclestu, I'm out of the audiophilia nervosa stage, so unlikely to try anything like the salt. Not a reflection on you, just something that happened to me based on life circumstances.
  - RE: Of human auditory perception - beautox 01:48:27 03/26/15 (1)
    We can detect volume changes of sounds with "a few femtoseconds"
    
    Is that right? Can we see some evidence?
    
    Just that a femtosecond is one millionth of one billionth of a second (10 to the minus 15 seconds)
    
    To put this into context, a 20kHz sine wave, one cycle, lasts 5 billion femtoseconds.
    
    I thought my ears were good but apparently not...
    - Ooops! LOL - bartc 05:40:24 03/26/15 (0)
      You're right! My confusion. The research I read said a few 50,000ths of a second. Where I conflated that with "femto" I don't know. Hell, if my memory is getting that bad, maybe it was 50 thousdandths of a second.
      Still damn sharp, even if my memory and your hearing don't quite measure up, LOL.
      My error, so strike that.

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