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In Reply to: RE: It gets worse. Much worse. posted by geoffkait on December 31, 2012 at 12:35:35
rule of the right hand
High school stuff
Stu
Follow Ups:
At the risk of repeating myself - The sound will be improved by tying a square knot in any single wire or cord or cable in the room, including UNUSED cords and cables, even ordinary electrical cords or computer cables or TV cables. Or tying any adjacent cables together in a square knot. Ditto for any cables and cords NOT in the listening room. Basic high school physics, indeed. HA HA HA
Please show in the your previous post where you wrote that. Most readers of the forum are not mind readers, but I know you probably are.....
LOL!Stu
PS. the right hand rule applies everywhere, too, BTW.
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That's what I like about you, you catch on so fast.
:-)
Did you try granny knots?
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
Granny knots are for little old ladies. Symmetrical square knots are for real men. Also called Reef Knots.
I recall May saying that granny knots didn't work, but I can't recall if that's it or if they made things worse.
I want to believe...
Happy New Year!
Rick
> > > "I recall May saying that granny knots didn't work, but I can't recall if that's it or if they made things worse.
I want to believe..." < < <
Rick m,
It is that Granny knots don't work. It HAS to be a Reef Knot !! And, as Geoff points out, you can make a Reef Knot in passive (unused) cables, anywhere in the listening room, and have a very effective improvement in the sound.
The technique of tying Reef Knots in cables was first demonstrated in the UK (and written about in Hi Fi Answers audio magazine) some 20 years ago.
Regards,
May Belt.
Manufacturer
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
If the Tweak Gremlins stole all our tweaks during the night, most
of wouldn't realize they were gone in the morning.
I wish all of you a Healthy, Safe, Happy Year,
John
Good luck to everyone.
Hmmm, sounds too much like religion for my taste.
"Hmmm, sounds too much like religion for my taste."
The backfire effect applies to science as well as religion.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
Sheepshank prolly won't work, either.
Possibly not Texas.
I agree that the ground loops made a difference in my system. However, the tweak that was head, shoulders and waist above all the others was the addition of crystals to my system. The improvement was equal to many thousands of dollars in equipment upgrades. All of the vibration tweaks we discussed were second in line, including adding silicone to my carbon fiber disc mat. Uncle Stu's recend post on charcoal briquettes will rival the crystal tweaks and stand a good chance of surpassing them when all the results are tabulated. Happy tweaking.
kendo
One wonders how many crystals can be in a room before some sort of limit is reached. I had a customer 10 years ago with a $100K system that doubled his system performance with about one pound of crystals distributed around room corners. Let's see, how many thousands of dollars of an improvement is that?One also has to wonder why crystals have not become more, you know, mainstream. Could there be that many neophobes?
:-)
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You ask for credibility but do ever re read your explanations ?
Hardly convincing for mainstream users: channelling time is a good example that would discredit pretty much everything you say.
AA readers have a lot more knowledge than you would suspect.
Stu
You and Geoff get into it here from time to time. But usually you try stuff that many consider BS. Are you saying by your comment above that you don't believe in and/or haven't tried crystals? I would think you'd be open to them as its well known they passively absorb RFI/EMI. Of course maybe something went over my head here...........
ET
I have been playing with crystals since 1992 or thereabout. I had been presented with some Shun Mook discs, and they worked ! I bought a few, had them x rayed and then cut one apart, only to find a small faceted 2 mm red stone. Th stone made a greater sonic difference than the wood did, although I eventually lost the stone.I believe I was the first to post about the crystalline effect over a decade ago, although I got the basic ideas from both Shun Mook and Shakti. I can not take credit for their use.
However the principles upon which I apply the crystal are very different from what Geoff claims. I claim the piezo effect, Geoff claims mechanical resonance, tuned to about 350 Hz, which I find hard to swallow when his rocks are loose in a plastic bag. No doubt when Geoff claims crystalline deformation he is merely referring to what the piezo effect is doing to the crystalline structure, but without having to admit that the mechanical
theory of his is very secondary.When I posted about crystals, the field was wide open. Most know about the typical piezo crystals like tourmaline and the quartz family, but there are many other crystals with similar properties. It is impossible to try every crystal. Simply researching crystalline properties yields very limited information even with the internet.
I have attempted to be more open about sharing information because it is my firm belief that the field advances faster and further with the collective consciousness being pooled. There will be many who would rather buy a finished product rather than to spend time experimenting so there is still room for the entrepreneur.
Often times I do not quibble with the sonic effects, but rather the explanations offered.
Of course, YMMV
Stu
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OK, I see where you are coming from. I love crystals and what they do myself. I finally did the ground tweak and thought that it did much much more than the wire to negative side of a 9V or in my case I tried a 9V and 6AA in a holder too. Cheers.
ET
needs a large capacitor to balance tonality. Just the wire to the battery tends to brighten things up, but the 10K uF cap I use restores the bass response, I do have to bypass the cap, much like a power supply applicatin, however.
with the caps, the effect is even greater than the plain ground wire\, at least IMHO.
Of course YMMV
Stu
Actually I had no sense of increased or imbalanced HF, it was more of just not hearing much of anything. Loops are really nice though. Just on the negative speaker terminals 2 per speaker as I bi-amp/bi-wire.
ET
'I have attempted to be more open about sharing information because it is my firm belief that the field advances faster and further with the collective consciousness being pooled. There will be many who would rather buy a finished product rather than to spend time experimenting so there is still room for the entrepreneur.'
Totally agree. Beside your contributions think cmp^2. There was Cics initial magnificient work that has been improved upon by Serge and Jack and countless others. Cheers to 'open sharing of information' as it relates to computer audio.
Good post!
I have attempted to be more open about sharing information because it is my firm belief that the field advances faster and further with the collective consciousness being pooled. There will be many who would rather buy a finished product rather than to spend time experimenting so there is still room for the entrepreneur.
I was advised the best use of them was to put them all outside the house, evenly split between the bottle shop and the Indian Take Away where their effect would be noticed within about 30-40 minutes.
Crystals rule!
If you keep talking like that I am going to take the Ruler to your right hand......whack....whack....he he. bad boy...sit in the corner.
Happy New Year!!!! May the tweaks be with us! Love and Joy are nice too!
Actually, I find its application very important in audio. Its a very small thing, usually mentioned only in an incidental passage about currents, covered only in a paragraph, if you're lucky.Still in building my own IC's and such I follow its principles and achieve a noticeable increase in sound quality. I have written about it before, particularly in my experimentation with ferro fluid filled wires. The winding, both pitch and directionality ( left hand or right hand twist) Is very obvious in my system.
Even in rewiring a tonearm, I observe the rule and it all helps.
Still, I hate when some employ mysticism to disguise basic scientific principles. The mundane does not make for good copy, but I believe establishing the explanation and a rational one at that, helps further the field and progress in audio.
YMMV, obviously....
stu
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