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If both align the molecules they would be the same. Perhaps one more efficient. nt

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In Reply to: RE: Work alike? posted by alan m. kafton on July 05, 2010 at 16:48:32

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Cryogenic treatment.... - alan m. kafton 14:31:50 07/06/10 (8)
....both compacts and re-aligns the molecular structure. I highly doubt that the Tesla treatment compacts them whatsoever, and I'm not aware what, if any re-alignment occurs. Is this information speculative, or is there anything on the SR site? I'll take a look now.
- RE: Compression - geoffkait 18:00:46 07/08/10 (4)
  The material is compressed during the deep freeze, then expands during the thaw. Apologies in advance for nit-picking.
  - RE: Compression - alan m. kafton 00:15:01 07/09/10 (3)
    I always use the word compacted for a reason. The expansion is not always uniform with the compaction, as there are voids in the materials that are reduced and/or eliminated. And to further pick nits, differing materials contract and expand at different rates. So there.
    - RE: Compression - geoffkait 04:34:56 07/09/10 (2)
      Alan, I'm afraid things are worse than you think. Much, much worse. Freezing any media such as video cassettes, DVDs, even books, can improve the sound of a CD that has NOT been frozen. So, I implore you, where does that leave us with our precious little theory of molecular reorganization? evil laughter
      - Freezing a book can improve the sound of a CD? - alan m. kafton 20:44:07 07/09/10 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Compression posted by geoffkait on July 09, 2010 at 04:34:56
        
        Now you need to document that event. Really.
        
        As far as the "precious little theory of molecular reorganization", it ain't a theory. It's a fact proven via electron microscope. All the others examples you raise I have no interest in, nor do I think things are "worse", or "much, much worse". You have no idea what I think, and I ain't thinking about what you're thinking.
        
        Have a lovely weekend.
        
        RE: "You have no idea what I think" - geoffkait 05:47:50 07/10/10 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Freezing a book can improve the sound of a CD? posted by alan m. kafton on July 09, 2010 at 20:44:07
        
        Excellent reaction.
        
        Of course we know that "molecular reorganization" is responsible for why cryogenics works to improve strength and hardness and reduce mechanical stress for tools, musical instruments, gun barrels, etc. That much is not in dispute! But, if I can be so bold, drawing the same conclusion for why cryogenics (and freezing) works for CDs and LPs and other audio items is not logical for the reason I gave. I was one of the first in the US to get involved with cryogenics and freezing for audio applications. You know, back when Jesus was in diapers.
- I doubt they say anything in print. nt - Norm 17:55:38 07/06/10 (2)
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  - They don't.... - alan m. kafton 21:03:37 07/06/10 (0)
    ....other than the treatment working "on the sub-atomic level".
  - RE: I doubt they say anything in print." You'd be surprised....nt - geoffkait 18:20:17 07/06/10 (0)
    nt

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