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In Reply to: RE: Informal poll: For those who mark the edges of their CDs, do you use water-based or non-WB markers? posted by Quint on February 17, 2010 at 07:01:18
Often when these are resold (and you are looking to get the maximum return), they go to band fans, rather than audiophiles.
They want a pristine disc - not one with green or black edges. They laugh at us for these treatments - but they pay good money for collectibles.
Regards,
Geoff
Follow Ups:
I was pretty much inclined to your way of thinking, but I thought I’d ask other people’s opinions. Most discs I buy to own and enjoy, but a few are collectible enough to potentially sell one day. I like what “markering” does sonically, and I’m enough of an audiophile to what to enjoy those benefits on every disc I listen to, but I’m also aware of the collectability of some of my CDs. Thanks for your input!
I have used green paint pens. they can be washed off with dish soap and a little help from a fingernail. Sharpies, both green or black, any ordinary alchol stuff will clean off completely, and water based washes right off.
The only permanent change is from those cutters, that cut the edge off. (they give me the creeps)
That's a rather odd thing to say since permanent inks are easily removed with alcohol as are the water-based colors.
Cheerio
As long as you don't forget to do it before you take your digital happy snaps and throw it up on eBay.
Notwithstanding that the edge treatment can be removed, I have found that I do not edge treat my collectible discs. What can I say?
Regards,
Geoff
... that resale WILL be affected by these treatments. If you even think you'll be reselling them, Quint, you'll get killed on the resale if you do. So don't.
BTW- Sealed in original packaging is really what a collector wants. I've got some old Mo-Fi records that have never been opened. "Abbey Road", "Sticky Fingers". etc. I wonder what they are worth in the era of hi-def digital downloads? ("Shit", probably!)
Oh, well.
Oh no, Winston, those Mo-Fi LPs go for nice money--especially sealed! You're sitting on a nice little windfall. Check out eBay for pricing. I bet you'll be surprised what they're going for. :)
I was just kinda saving them for my kid, actually. He'll be an audiophile someday (whether he wants to or not!)
Just kidding, of course. I'll let him decide if he wants to sell them in a few years. He's a little young currently. Audio seems to take a certain level of mental maturity to appreciate (i.e., sitting for long periods just listening to music) versus the whiz-bang nature of the ubiquitous 'video game'. I'm really glad I grew up in the era of sports and physical activity, rather than this age of passivity.
I remember among my friends and I, the only shows we would really watch TV-wise were sporting events. Our very favorite summer show was Saturday morning's baseball "Game of the Week" on NBC with Curt Gowdy, Tony Kubek and Joe Garagiola. Immediately after the game we'd be so friggin' fired up watching all those great players that we'd all charge down to our local school and baseball ourselves senseless until it was dangerously dark out. (i.e., BONK!!)
Gowdy, Kubek and old Joe. Was there ever a better team of announcers for America's pastime? (Although Vin Scully sure is an institution with those LA Dodgers. We love old Vin. He's always been right there with the best of them.)
But my all-time favorite sports announcer, bar none, can only be the one, the only, the legend himself: HOWARD COSELL!
Just kidding. In fact, merely the thought of Howard's voice filled me with a rush of somewhat nauseating nostalgia. (Guess things weren't always better, 'in the old days'.) :-)
Actually, while I'm on the subject, my all-time favorite announcer was Chick Hearn, period. I listened via radio to every single Laker home game growing up (my folks were somewhat impecunious, so radio rather than tickets.) Watched every televised away game, too, and if not televised, I used the radio again. Chick was fabulous! So entertaining! So much fun! We Laker fans miss the shit outta old Chick baby. I suspect God is a Laker fan, too. So when Chick got to the pearly gates, God probably instructed Gabriel to " ...put him in the popcorn machine and hang him out to dry!" (Wink, wink) Yeah, we miss old Chick.
I'll bet the cubbie fans sorely miss their man Carey, just as much as we miss old Chick. (I love those old Chicago Cubs, too, BTW. My family was all from there originally. Same goes for the Chicago Bears. Go, Bears, Go! Blackhawks, too.) You know, probably every fan of every sports franchise has memories like this. I hope so. Truly great announcers can sure add a lot to the experience of watching sporting events on the old boob tube. Or especially radio.
I was lucky growing up when and where I did. Kids today probably don't know what they are missing. (Or care, for that matter.)
Well, I certainly seem to have wandered a bit there. Anyway, thanks for the info, Quint. I'll definitely keep it mind and maintain the Mo-Fis in perfect, unopened condition for my kid. It'll be interesting to see what he thinks of all this in a few years. Hopefully, they'll hold or improve their value. You never know, though...
Happy Listening!
WS
WS:
Your post brings back a lot of memories. I’m a big sports fan myself, and remember when The Game of the Week came on. I’d be especially psyched if the Kansas City Royals were playing, as George Brett was/is my favorite player of all time. (I guess I’m biased, because George was gracious enough to sign a Royals jersey for me after a spring training game in 1978. I still have that jersey—and am still amazed at the purity of his swing whenever I see a clip of him in action!)
Though he could be a horse’s ass at times, Howard Cosell was an announcer for the ages. He was probably the first sports commentator that was as popular as many rock stars of the era. He was truly a household name. I remember watching many a MNF game with my dad. We’d love to listen to the back-and-forth insults between Howard and “Dandy” Don Meredith. Those were the days!
Yeah, definitely keep those Mo-Fi’s sealed for your son. If he wants to open them when he’s ready, that’s definitely cool. It’ll be a nice little gift from you to him.
Take care!
IIRC, wasn't Brett the protege of probably the sweetest swinger of all time, Ted Williams? I've only seen footage of Williams, but man! Those wrists! Quick as lightning! IMHO, only Barry Bonds had faster wrists and a quicker swing (sadly, likely due to 'enhancement'), but not nearly as pretty. And Brett's swing was damn near a carbon-copy of Williams' swing. Just gorgeous. Yeah, I remember Brett and all those incredibly clutch homers. Hell, I'm gettin' chills just thinking about those old days again.
You know, I had a pitching coach who had gone to AAA in the Royals org and personally knew Brett. Said he was a real gem and great guy, and I believe him. Coach's name was Hanks, IIRC, but I think he died a while back. Hard-nosed SOB who made us pitchers into long distance runners. Now it's all about weights and conditioning for strength, and not so much about incredible endurance as when I pitched. My, how things change...
Well, enough B-Ball nostalgia. Back to the business of audio and tweaking here in the Tweaker's Asylum.
But it sure was fun reminiscing about these guys. Hope they are all doing well, wherever they are.
Quint, take care yourself, too.
PS- And yes, I must admit that on occasion I actually did find old Howard C entertaining. His voice was just really nasally and came across poorly on our old TVs back then. Very grating. (Gee, I wonder how he would have sounded if we had tweaked the TV's audio system... ) :-)
Best Regards,
WS
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