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In Reply to: RE: Finished posted by David Aiken on May 07, 2009 at 18:45:57
Thank you for your suggestions....I will have to play with the positioning and perhaps even add a couple of more, I am thinking of the ceiling area.
After playing around with the positions I have moved the back panels to the corners actually...much improved soundstage and evenness in the sound. The side panels are actually in line with the first order reflections at the 2/3 mark going away from the speaker.
So far today I made 5 panels, I have enough materials to make 12 total.
Also I have a question about the blinds....won't they act as a diffuser of sound?
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In the corners, the back panels may do a little better at lower frequencies. Try placing them at 45 degrees across the corner, creating an air space behind. If you find moving them to the corners is better, I think you will find the angled placement better again.
The blinds won't really act as a diffuser. They may reflect higher frequencies at a slightly different angle but they aren't diffusing the reflection, just reflecting it normally at a different angle because the blades of the blind aren't parallel to the wall but angled. Experiment with different opening angles of the blinds and see if you prefer one position to another. They may be less reflective of high frequencies than the glass of the windows is, and that may help a little also.
Glad to hear the panels are helping.
David Aiken
Thanks again David, this is my latest adjustment...think I will let it stay like this for awhile so I can do some listening.
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I think it's looking good.
clio09 suggests covering the blinds with another panel. I think you will have a first reflection point on the wall near to the window or actually on the window and you would probably benefit from treating it, but I would not want to lose all of the light from the windows. I think a second panel there, both on stands and raised so that the top of each panel is just above the top of each speaker, and positioned to cover the first reflection points would deal with the first reflection which will be the stongest and most troublesome one while leaving most of the window unobscured so that you get the light.
Acoustic treatment and tailoring the sound to your preferences is fine but my feeling is that I am more relaxed in a room I feel comfortable in and that the greater level of relaxation translates into a better listening experience. I would not like to lose the natural light. If the window area is still a problem with the first reflection points treated as I've just suggested, I'd prefer to swap the blinds for curtains, choosing a material which is translucent enough to still allow some light while thick enough to absorb enough of the high frequencies to take the brightness off the window reflection. I think, however, that just ensuring the first reflection points are covered may well be sufficient.
David Aiken
They would reflect nothing but would be open wells.
Not really open wells because the rear of the blades isn't in contact with the window itself. It's more of a grating and you may get some diffraction on both sides as sound exits the blinds in each direction but I don't think the effect will be great. I wonder whether the sound will be better as you suggest, or with the blinds closed or angled and providing a surface with a different reflectivity than the glass of the windows themselves.
It's worth trying and running with the approach that is preferred but I suspect any difference will be more from the difference in reflectivity than from the diffraction.
David Aiken
I was thinking more angled as to reflect the sound in another direction. I am also considering either a shear curtain or fabric blinds. But as it stands the panels themselves made a huge improvement. I'm pretty satisfied with things the way they are...newness.
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I would take the panel behind the speaker and place the bottom edge so it is flush with the window sill. Then make another panel and place it right above, doubling up the space. You lose some light coming into the room, but gain some benefit by reducing the effect of the blinds. I have a similar situation and found this to work well.
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