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In Reply to: RE: QuickSilver contact enhancer on Cat5 speaker wire re. burn-in posted by Japesgalore on December 17, 2008 at 16:42:33
Ya know, I don't know!
When I shopped around it seemed that the spray was the cheaper deal here in stores and I have yet to even use up one can. I find the spray easy and I can just spray it on a Q tip (cotton swab) and wipe it on that way. No other reason and never compared.
You pays your money and you makes your choice... as the old saying goes.
Either way, it's a tried and true product that cleans, conditions, and protects all in one compound. And it seems to last quite long too. If you went back and reapplied it every 3-6 months that would probably be overkill! But some do, as some change their car oil religiously very often. YMMV
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Hey again, I've been going through a bunch of old posts on this topic and have also read conflicting opinions on the Caig stuff. Comparatively, there seems to be more negative about Caig than there is about Quicksilver, especially the latest Quicksilver Gold (which I DON'T have). Caig Gold is said to impart its own characteristics as well, namely, cutting off the highs and diffusing the midrange (whatever that means).
Quicksilver Gold is said to be pretty much flawless, but I was wondering if you could share what exactly you thought wasn't so great about the Quicksilver you had. I suppose I can kind of imagine what it is but I haven't been able to do any comparisons with or without the stuff, given that my speaker cables are new constructions anyway. For me, certain high frequency notes/tones are quite pronounced and prominent against the rest of the soundstage. They're not fatiguing, but I'm just ever so slightly too aware of them. Perhaps its still a question of burn-in, as I've only had it, and the cables, in use for about 40 hours.
Also, about these R-C filters, searching the site using 'r-c' in the field brings up absolutely nothing. Strange (although 'zobel' brings up loads of stuff). Have you got maybe a link to something that you found useful?
Cheers
R/C speaker cable network
Julien
"There's someone in my head, but it's not me"
This one was done very carefully and is documented herein with great instructions and pix. It does make this little project seem very complicated, which it turns out not to be at all!
I make mine similarly with some minor variances, partly the result of experimentation and partly just out of laziness. But the basic formula works very very well and is much better than just an R-C on both cable ends, or an R-C array on both ends, or an ungrounded Ti-shielded R-C on both ends.
In fact, I posted that I wired my ground into another R-C array (also Ti=shielded) that was built into a plug. Talk about overdoing it! LOL But that works really well for me.
For starters, the simplest way is to just do one major value of C and one of R and put each of these R-Cs on each cable end. This can be done with wirenuts before permanently soldering, so you can experiment more easily with R values (and these may be idiosyncratic, so worth trying). Next step is the 3 descending R-C pairs forming an array and use that on each cable end.
Then you go for the whole grounded Ti-shielded deal.
Japes, first try this thread for R-C filtering on speaker cables. There are more. Just look up "filter" under my name "bartc" or "Al Sekela" and follow all the links to the other posters and you'll get tons of stuff from various years and levels of developments.
As I understood it, Zobels are a particular usage of R-C filters, while R-C filtering or parallel AC filtering are more generic terms. I'm not the EE here, so don't go by my amateur information. But you can find lots in the archives by each of these, and R-C parallel filtering schemes work for both AC and speaker cable voltage/wattage/amperage situation, only you require more specific safety designed pieces for the AC.
As to QS, I have only the original silver formulation and have never heard the gold version. I was never dissatisfied with the silver and am not dissing it here. I was just suggesting that CAIG is great for lots more uses and I think it's better for treatment before one crimps the terminations onto the bare wire ends. Nothing I can prove or disprove there.
Al always was suspicious of the carrier of the QS type products drying out and leaving you with a less optimal conductivity. Some folks like the more detailed sound, some find it too bright or brittle. I never disliked it and actually liked it, until I started using more refined polished plugs and outlets from Furu and then Oyaide, and then felt the QS to be unnecessary. YOu also have to be careful of where you use it and how, so as not to create a shorting situation!
YMMV.
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