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In Reply to: RE: Weights on my amps posted by Patster on October 10, 2008 at 05:07:11
Simply adding mass shifts the resonant frequency down, and usually this is a bad thing to do.
What you want is a heavy but non-resonant object together with a layer of damping material. "Damping" refers to the property of converting vibrational energy into heat.
An example would be a lead brick or box of sand resting on a layer of Deflex rubber. Available from partsconneXion, Deflex was developed as a damping elastomer for race car suspensions and is sold in convenient sheets and rounds for use in damping audio gear.
To see if damping vibration from your amp's transformer would help your sound, try the experiment of placing a bag of fresh raisins on it. If you hear an improvement, then you can pursue making or buying a suitable object.
Electromagnetic damping requires a specialized material such as ERS Cloth or TI Shield, available from Michael Percy Audio. This could be worked into the mechanical damping device to give improved performance. Note that these are conductive materials and should be used with care in the presence of live wiring.
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Thanks Al Sekala
I currently have a 8lb weight resting on a blue circle puc
One for each amp
The input transformers I have a 3 pound dumbell donut with hole inside
Inside the hole I have a herbie tenderfoot
What you want is a heavy but non-resonant object together with a layer of damping material. "Damping" refers to the property of converting vibrational energy into heat
Al Does this fit the application you mentioned above
is loaded to within its design pressure range. It is made to convert vibrational energy into heat, but will only do so if the weight on it is within its specified range. If you overload it, it won't dissipate vibration. See the Herbie's site for the weight ranges intended for the various footers.
I'm not sure what you mean by "blue circle puc." AFAIK, the Blue Circle Audio Puck is a specialized capacitor used in their power supply upgrades, and not a damping device.
What I would do is order a sheet of Deflex rubber and cut pieces to fit under the weights you intend to use. I would look for weights made of material that does not ring with a definable tone when tapped. Iron weights would definitely ring and create more trouble for damping. However, steel shot in wooden boxes would be less lively and give you magnetic behavior similar to the solid iron. Mix the steel shot with quartz sand for even less acoustic vibration.
Thanks Al
Here's a bit of info on the tenderfeet
Recommended for audio and video components weighing from 2 to 50 pounds (1-23kg). Particularly well-suited for CD/DVD and SACD players, DACs, preamps, power supplies and conditioners, turntables, and small amplifiers. Delivers a full-bodied and quick, highly articulate result with amazing linear extension.
The blue circle pucks i'm referring to our made out of foam and are shaped like a hockey puck the weight sit's on top of the foam
I checked for the deflex rubber there are many types which one do you recommend
The thick Deflex will have a lot of give to it, and may not prevent your weight from wobbling on top of the amp.
For your existing combinations, simply try pressing gently on them. If there is a little give to the damping material, then you are likely getting some benefit from it. If the damping material is squashed by the weight and does not give at all, then the material is likely overloaded and cannot absorb energy.
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