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Hi,
Has anyone try Ayre IBE burn-in disc? what's your opinion? Does cause any negative effect in the long run?
thanks.
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It's tough to dance to? :-)
But seriously...I can't *prove* that the IBE disk doesn't have any negative effects (ever try to prove a negative?), but it does have very nice positive effects in my systems. I notice the positives mainly in better low level resolution and dynamics (perhaps because the intra-system noise is reduced?), a more open midrange with increased clarity and punch, and airier highs - the highs seem purer and less digitally strident. I have 4 digital disk sources, and try to use it on each separate player on a weekly basis, as routine maintenance - just pop it in, hit play, and go do other things. Since it seems to clear up the whole downstream system, it also benefits the sound from non-digital sources; for example, the sound from my Dish Network satellite receiver is never going to be confused with high-end audio, but the improvement is unmistakeable, and very welcome in an area where any improvement is gratefully accepted.
Howdy
I have one, but I haven't done an A/B with it. Trying to use it to "clean" my system would be quite the undertaking considering I'm a MC SACD kind of guy... Maybe Charles will make a SACD release :)
-Ted
Thanks. I guess it only works well for red book CDP. For $20, i may give it a try.
I am very suspicious of stuff like this... I am curious how others feel.
Enjoy!-Kevin
the idea seems preposterous, but it does work.
Jim Hagerman feels that it is the current that burns in the circuits. Gryphon, the Danish manufacturer, came out with their Exorcist: a hand held device which simply generated a 1 kHz tone burst with a, IIRC, a 45 second decay. This was supposed to demagnetize the circuit carrying the tone burst. George Cardas once told me that he thought a full spectrum white noise was the key, and he preferred a nature disc with lots of running water for break in. The most sophisticated CD I have seen is the Purist Audio Disc, and Jim Aud claims to have 125 different programs specifically engineered for the 125 most commonly found items in a circuit ( silver, aluminum, steel, and copper wire, plated wire, teflon insulation, etc, etc.). It works extreme;y well in demagnetizing your circuit but the effect fades after three weeks or so, so you need to continuously use the disc.
As with any tweak, YMMV, but they all work to varying degrees.
Stu
I'm using IsoTek's CD and especially on new speakers, the effects are plain as day. Esoteric and Genesis Loudspeakers openly endorse this particular one, saying spinning it for a day equals multiple 100s of hours of regular music playing. Couldn't tell you whether the Ayre or Cardas versions are more efficacious. It is telling however that speaker manufacturers would recommend such a disc on their own websites -:)
The demag effects on a whole system are transitory so you'll have to use such a disc every once in a while - but for the money and the non-effort involved using this type of tweak, it's quite the no-brainer. And if you've got new components to whip into shape, some of which promise subtle improvements up to 1000 hours, why suffer sub-optimal music listening for more than a year?
Give it a try I'd say...
One rationale would be, if you had to break in a piano, what would be the quickest way? Hitting all keys at once = white noise. Makes sense for a system then, doesn't it?
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