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RE: Gold- plated chassis wire.

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Maril555

In Reply to: RE: Gold- plated chassis wire. posted by zanash on September 16, 2007 at 23:41:56

Thanks Zanash,
Your assumption regard. the proposed change of sound does make sense,
and that what I would expect myself.
I was looking for more of a first hand experience.
I definetely do not want any of the "tizzines" generally associated with silver wires.
I would accept certain degree of trade-off, removing copper, and assocoated warmth.
Also, I was told, that such a wire will take appr. 100 hrs of burn-in, and I'm wondering, what kind of sound change can one expect during the burn-in process?

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RE: Gold- plated chassis wire. - kenpeter 10:00:10 09/18/07 (1)
What exactly does burn-in do?
If I really stretch out my imagination and attempt to take
this whole thread seriously (difficult). I might say a wire
could become work hardened from handling, and certainly from
soldering. And some small period of tempering/annealing may
happen to reverse this process during burn-in.
Contamination by the presence of silver and/or gold may
also alter pure copper's work hardening behavior.
And perhaps any stretched insulation may settle back to
a stable shape with burn-in as well (Dielectric loading.)
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You want something really exotic, look up litz wire.
Hundreds of bundled individually insulated wires that
work together to defeat high frequency "skin effect".
Of course, stripping so many ends is a huge chore. But
this works wonders for HF almost up to microwaves.
Probably couldn't hear or even measure such a frivolous
tweak at audio frequency, but at least it may actually
do something real thats not purely cosmetic.
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I challenge you to reason why a few inches of wire would
make a hill of beans difference unless you are gonna wind
entire audio transformers, especially the output, with the
same exotic stuff. Get you a bare toroid and its certainly
possible. Do some research on Baluns first... How you wind
makes more difference that what you wind.
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Zanash, sounds like you got a born sucker on the hook.
I can only admire your ability to sell water to a fish.
Why let him off easy with gold? Sure you could probably
cut him an unbelievable deal on some diamond encrusted
platinum Faberg� wires that sound totally $$$. Fast and
not the least bit bloated.

Edits: 09/18/07 09/18/07 09/18/07
- RE: diamond encrusted platinum Faberg� wire - coolhand 18:50:41 09/24/07 (0)
  You're posting in the wrong asylum buddy, try the:
  'Skeptics Asylum', the
  'Tin eared Asylum', or even the
  'Never tried it first hand, but am good at slagging it Asylum'
  
  There you will find plenty of like minded punters whom you can share toilet paper with, YMMV !
RE: Gold- plated chassis wire. - zanash 00:40:09 09/18/07 (1)
the tizziness you mention is a symptom of silverplated copper not pure silver.....

I build silver gold interconnects ....that are quite popular I hope thats the sort of first hand experience you mean!!!
- RE: Gold- plated chassis wire. - Maril555 10:21:22 09/18/07 (0)
  Zanash,
  I meant no offense, when I mentioned "first hand experience".
  I think I misinterpreted your initial response:
  "If you use gold plated silver wire and replace [I'm assuming copper] I would expect that you'd loose some warmth and the bloated bass and gain a clean fast sound with more body than if you'd used silver. There are a lot of assumptions here as the amount of gold involved will effect the sound of the silver."
  When you said "I expect...", and "There are a lot of assumptions...", I just took it at a face value.
  Your experience building ICs from silver/gold wire is very interesting.
  May I ask you what wire are you using?, and what sonic signature your ICs display. I might be interested in trying them- out in my system.
  Could you provide any info re- your products (if they are commercially available).
  Last thing- do you see any changes (and what specifically) during the burn- in period?
  Best regards.

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