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In Reply to: RE: Which new AC outlet with old house wring posted by jea48 on August 06, 2007 at 06:48:56
I'd love to do that, except I rent. Besides the expense, which is another issue.
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Why not call the owner of the rental property and ask him if he would have the bad receptacles replaced. Arcing between the plug and the receptacle is one of the primary causes of electrical fires. Arcing will not cause a fuse to blow.Arcing causes heat. Age and heat causes the insulation covering the wire to become hard and brittle.
If you attempt to change out the receptacles yourself and the insulation is really old and brittle as you pull the old receptacle and wire out of the box to disconnect the old recept you could end up with two bare wires before you know it. What will you do then?
Call the landlord, he owns the property. Let him accept the responsibility.By the way NEC 2005 states when changing out an existing non grounding 2 wire receptacle it must be replaced with a non grounding 2 wire recept, or in your case it could be replaced with a GFI recept. If a GFI recept is used the outlet shall have a label stating "No Equipment Ground".
"Why not call the owner of the rental property and ask him if he would have the bad receptacles replaced. Arcing between the plug and the receptacle is one of the primary causes of electrical fires. Arcing will not cause a fuse to blow....."
Sounds like a Smoketest!
Mr. Dowd, my Jr. High electronics class teacher: "Plug it in, see if it smokes." It did, sometimes.
I agree that you should call the owner of the rental property and ask him/her to have the bad AC outlets replaced so everything is okay in terms of liability due to the 'ancient' wiring issue. I would also ask the owner of the rental property to please tell the electrician to call you at least a few days before he comes to install the new AC outlets (figure out a good story as to why you request this). Ask the electrician what type of grade he will install (cheap "79 cent contractor grade" type or a higher quality Spec Grade type?). If he tells you that he can/will install a bare brass Spec Grade type, be happy that you can at least obtain that level without further issue. If the electrician tells you that he can only select a cheap "79 cent contractor grade" type AC outlet, ask him if you can purchase a higher grade AC outlet for him to install as long as the product is clearly marked as meeting NEMA code, and is a 15A receptacle. If he tells you, "That's fine with me", purchase the best AC outlet you are willing to leave behind if-and-when you move out of the rental property. Although not a high performance option, it would probably be best to choose a US made "non-Audio Grade" product printed with NEMA info on it just in case the owner of the rental property has issue with something "so exotic" being installed in their property. If the owner of the rental property tells you it's okay for you to hand over ownership of a more pricey Oyaide or Furutech product, and that's okay with you, go for it... Otherwise, a 15A Spec Grade bare brass Hubbell product or 15A Spec Grade bare brass Pass & Seymour product would be a safe bet in your particular situation... just my 2 cents :-)
Thanks for the detailed ideas. I'll probably contact the landlord.
When I moved in here in 2000 one of my friends did check the outlets with one of those little testers. There was one 'new' 3 prong outlets that had no ground, and we replaced it with the appropriate outlet.
Worms!?! I just knew I was opening a can of worms....
SL
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