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In Reply to: RE: 42 degrees? posted by Ivan303 on August 18, 2014 at 09:37:15
No noise, CPU just a bit above idle temp with fan at ZERO rpm.
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And, according to the 'pearls' of carcass93 in the post above, that something 'must' be introducing noise.
It just MUST!
Pearls indeed.
In his initial post, the OP was trying to instill FUD in Mac users on how a spinning fan and it's electric and magnetic fields supposedly has an adverse affect on sound quality.... (mainly because I have said in the past that I don't hear my Mac fan).
When shown that the fan isn't energized and doesn't spin under light loads (like playing music), they try to conveniently shift the topic to the fan controller - - and anything and everything else that can supposedly affect sound quality.
"In his initial post, the OP was trying to instill FUD in Mac users on how a spinning fan and it's electric and magnetic fields supposedly has an adverse affect on sound quality.... (mainly because I have said in the past that I don't hear my Mac fan).
When shown that the fan isn't energized and doesn't spin under light loads (like playing music), they try to conveniently shift the topic to the fan controller - - and anything and everything else that can supposedly affect sound quality."
There is something drastically wrong when someone post useful info from anther forum that might be worthwhile discussing and all one does it trash the info and the person.
Did someone make up that thread and all the posts??? The discussions regarding the improvement of going fan less is universal, not just MAC related. If you are not interested, maybe just keep it moving...
Here is something you can watch to help you learn about the future...
Bob, it was very obvious what the OP was trying to do. I won't go over it yet again.
Putting your chivalrous defense of MAC honor aside...
If you were building a system from scratch, would you choose to build with a fan or fan less???
regards
Bob
Anyone calling this an aggressive putdown needs his head examined to remove aggressive paranoia.
That was a mistake, as you can see.
BTW, the question itself is a moot point - there's no chance anything would be built from scratch. Why? Because Apple makes an ultimate music-making machine, which cannot be improved upon - especially building a system from scratch, from "off-the-shelf" components.
The key here is to never even try to do anything to improve the sound quality - instead, THE thing to do is post countless, clueless, aggressive putdowns in the web forum, directed at those who try.
Well,
I guess I am an (infernal) optimist... :)
...aggressive putdowns?
That was the pot calling the kettle black as the saying goes. All one has to do is look at the name calling, cursing, and aggressive behavior in this very thread to see where the aggression is coming from. But we are all aware of this except perhaps the aggressor.
With a fan, with the ability to control it as needed.
And why and how it, or any additional activity going through MB (in this case, hardware monitoring), introduces noise. You clearly have no idea - but I have a suspicion that the "master" of yours does, just pretends to be even more clueless than he really is.There's no "MUST" - there's only "DOES", the only question is whether you can detect it, or whether you care about the effects, if you can. However, looks like in your case, and in the case of the other numbnut(s) from your camp, there's no question at all.
Edits: 08/18/14
"There's no "MUST" - there's only "DOES", the only question is whether you can detect it, or whether you care about the effects, if you can. However, looks like in your case, and in the case of the other numbnut(s) from your camp, there's no question at all."
Actually, the question is whether or not those claiming to hear these "night and day" differences can demonstrate them. Can you, carcass93, provide any objective evidence of the existence of "the effects" that you hold so near and dear to your heart? If not, can you provide any explanation of why identical waveforms should sound different?
How can you expect anyone who hears a difference to demonstrate to someone like you who, through conviction, hears none.
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