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In Reply to: RE: Barge for delam repair posted by johnvb on January 23, 2024 at 07:51:47
That's a good idea, me thinks.
Question due to a probable "Memory Stumble": Did we find, long ago, that your MMG set was the same version as mine? This would be, for example, if the tweeter has 3 instead of 4 tweeter traces.
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Not sure what you mean by tweeter traces, but it has 8 tweeter foil wires. Would that be a 4 trace?
Anyway, lol, you made me look up the paperwork. Bought them in the summer of 2005, later modded them, and evidentially packed them away in the attic in 2014. They are in pretty good shape, considering. This time I plan on mounting them on milkcrates, to get an idea of what larger Maggies would do in the room.
LOL, it was not you, then. See, the brain cell misfired :) There are very few of us who still own this 1990's model. The older version I have has 3 pairs of tweeter traces, taking less Mylar area. Because of this, the mid/bass area is larger. The original xover was different also, 1st/2nd order vs 1st/1st in the new 2000s models. My MMGs are now retired, wrapped in protective storage.
The reason I asked had to do with behaviors of the older MMG when I tried every type of Mylar-back configuration I could. It may not apply to the latter models.
Well...I may not be flipping the panels anyway. I decided to un-install the "Razor" treatment I did to theses panels years ago, currently cleaning up the mess. That butyl stuff they used is hard to remove, looks like a few back holes got clogged in the cleaning process (gasket scraper > WD-40 > Goo Gone > Acetone). It is what it is.
LOL, I am sooo familiar with your plight, given the amount of experimentation I did with Razoring (and after taking it off and back on 3 times). The final removal was a major project because -- by no fault of the Razoring process -- I managed to fill in a ton of holes with the butyl rubber.
My solution was to carefully insert a pin into each hole's butyl plug and spin it around. The stuff stuck to the pin and I just pulled it out. Tons of holes, tons of patience. But the experiment that caused this problem, yielded the lowest distortion levels I ever measured in these Maggies. Pity I could not keep it so. Still, the experiment led to better things altogether. In fact, the 1.6QR I now have await all the tweaks I used to make the MMGs sound so lovely. I bought the 1.6QR used and they came with Razoring...so a modified similar experiment is planned later this year.
Are these now your only main speakers or are you just having fun bringing them back?
I had replaced these with KEF LS50s back when. But recently we remodel, including the living room Home Theater system, so moved the KEFs into that.
So now that I have recovered financial from the above :), it's time to set the 2 channel room back up. Setting these up is basically just an experiment on which way to move forward.
The best part is I had upgraded pretty much all the electronics in the room with the KEFS, so am interested in hearing the Maggies with the same. Bluenode streamer, MiniDSP SHD Studio, with dual SMSL DACs, and Wyred 4 sound M-pre and dual M-amps.
Nice kit!
What size are the framed MMGs now? Is the xover stock? Are you still at K...@cox email address? Let me know and I'll see if there is something useful in my bag of tricks I can forward to you.
Yes same email, send me a message.
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