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RE: best recording to show off Maggie lightning fast bass ?

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In Reply to: RE: best recording to show off Maggie lightning fast bass ? posted by trioderob on November 11, 2021 at 09:26:10

It's a misconception that Magnepans have powerful motor structures with high "speed", low resonances, low stored energy, etc, etc. Relative to many conventional speakers, they pale in comparison, in those aspects.

Now, that's not to say they don't bring other assets to the table. Speaker transducers are all about trade-off's.

That said, if you want to feel some lightning fast bass that will literally shake your guts during the experience, there are other speakers (that are not Maggie/planars) that will do it much better.

Dave.

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RE: best recording to show off Maggie lightning fast bass ? - trioderob 11:59:27 11/11/21 (7)
much faster bass than maggies ?
I am all ears
( I am not talking about gut jarring - I have heard all manner of K-horn - jbl and altec )

Edits: 11/11/21
- RE: best recording to show off Maggie lightning fast bass ? - josh358 13:33:56 11/11/21 (0)
  Well, "fast" bass is a bit of a misnomer. No bass is fast. It's bass -- the driver moves slowly.
  
  Often, "slow" bass is caused by a mismatch between the woofer and the midrange and tweeter. See the article I've linked to.
  
  Magnepan goes out of their way to extend the HF response of their woofer panels so that they meld in the crossover region.
  
  Another issue is that dipole bass triggers fewer room modes than monopole bass. This means smoother response in real world rooms. You can do the same thing with sealed subs, but you need four of them to do it.
  - http://www.soundstagenetwork.com/maxdb/maxdb061999.htm (Open in New Window)
- RE: best recording to show off Maggie lightning fast bass ? - Davey 12:45:22 11/11/21 (5)
  Open-baffle dipole bass systems using conventional drivers.
  Quite a few different examples in usage nowadays.
  My own system uses a variation of the Linkwitz Phoenix design.
  You won't find "fast" bass response like this from any Magnepan. :)
  Dave.
  
  Edits: 11/11/21
  - 30.7FC - emailtim 12:18:15 11/13/21 (1)
    So the 30.7FC with the conventional driver bass could potentially have faster bass ?
    - RE: 30.7FC - Davey 14:05:34 11/13/21 (0)
      I would certainly think so.
      
      Dave.
  - RE: best recording to show off Maggie lightning fast bass ? - trioderob 13:51:15 11/11/21 (2)
    open baffles have their own set of problems
    - RE: best recording to show off Maggie lightning fast bass ? - Davey 13:59:45 11/11/21 (1)
      Yeah, Magnepans are open-baffles also. :)
      As I said above, all speaker transducers have trade-offs....of one form or another.
      
      I'm speaking from long experience here, as I've had both Magnepans and Linkwitz-style woofer schemes in my listening room.
      
      Dave.
      - RE: best recording to show off Maggie lightning fast bass ? - trioderob 18:01:07 11/11/21 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: best recording to show off Maggie lightning fast bass ? posted by Davey on November 11, 2021 at 13:59:45
        
        that Linkwitz guy sure was good with the number figuring

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