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Made in China.. For some folks this matters.. Not quality, trade wars..

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In Reply to: RE: Nwer Quads are Made in China.. For some folks this matters.. nt posted by cawson@onetel.com on June 20, 2017 at 15:53:42

Now if China did have an equitable trade balance with the US I would not be whining.
However the trade imbalance is killing American jobs in ways we may actually never recover from. Since now it seems American companies have mostly moved production to China.
So I will NOT buy some 'made in China'. period.
And yeah, seems for some products I am just stuck with not buying anything anymore.
Then I can do without.

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RE: Made in China.. For some folks this matters.. Not quality, trade wars.. - cawson@onetel.com 12:35:26 06/27/17 (3)
Everyone can choose whether to buy or not to buy anything. Imbalance of trade should not be a reason though. For years the Japanese were building excellent quality stuff for less that it would cost to build in UK or US, but I guess you have a camera - where was it built? Not in the US I'd bet a penny to a pound! They were simply more efficient than the Germans and other camera builders.

The Chinese are filling the gap left by the Japanese who are making their money in more sophisticated ways. They are doing things "by number" that can be done with relatively little skill. The designs of much of what the Chinese build is American or British, but it's cheaper to assemble in China. Provided the quality control is there - and it will be with British or US companies controlling Chinese production, what's not to like?

If you could get the workers in US or UK to do these assembly jobs for a relatively low wage, these companies would remain in their home countries. In UK, we just can't get our own citizens to do these jobs, or picking vegetables, etc, so we farm out these jobs to Chinese-manned factories, or we get immigrants from Eastern Europe (and I guess you get Mexicans or Puerto Ricans) to pick our vegetables.

If you really want to pay 50% more for your camera or hi-fi just to have them assembled in the US, you probably still can. If you were the owner of a US company offering hi-fi to the world market, would you assemble in a US factory? Probably not if you wanted to sell your stuff at a sensible price or in sensible numbers. Sadly, a fact of modern global life.

Quad production may by in China now, but they are still based in Huntingdon, England where their design team, service centre and marketing teams are based.

I have no qualms whatsoever in trusting Quad to ensure that I get a quality product - wherever they choose to build it. The price of their top-of-the-range 2912 electrostatic is highly competitive at £8000 including 20% tax. It's refreshing (to normally ripped-off UK buyers) that the price of the 2912 in US is €14000!
- RE: Made in China.. For some folks this matters.. Not quality, trade wars.. - kentaja 16:06:13 06/27/17 (2)
  Their is a HUGE difference between what happen with Japan and what is happening now with China.
  
  Japan is a 1st world country and a democracy. China is neither.
  
  Quad may appear to be based in Huntingdon but it is just that appearance. They are a wholly owned Chinese company.
  - RE: Made in China.. For some folks this matters.. Not quality, trade wars.. - cawson@onetel.com 17:11:31 06/27/17 (1)
    > Their is a HUGE difference between what happen with Japan and what is happening now with China.
    
    Is there so much difference China now compared with Japan 50 years ago when they slaughtered the camera and motorcycle industries of the West? Their cameras and mcs were better than those they were competing with. I suspect we'll consider much the same with top quality modern Chinese production in years to come.
    
    > Quad may appear to be based in Huntingdon but it is just that appearance. They are a wholly owned Chinese company.
    
    And are current Quads in any way inferior compared with ones built in Huntingdon? No.
    - RE: Made in China.. For some folks this matters.. Not quality, trade wars.. - kentaja 19:03:26 06/27/17 (0)
      The quality of the goods coming out of Japan was not the point. Big difference between 1st world democracy and 3rd world totalitarian state.
      
      As for the quality of the current Quad offerings they are good a step above the typical Chinese made dreck but not nearly to the same level of engineering and overall design excellence of the UK/Walker designed/produced products.

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