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MMG vs. MC1 for surrounds

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Hi,

are the MC1's designed differently than the MMG's?

for surround use and wall mounting, would the MMG's work as well as
the MC1's?

reason I ask, the MC1's are 1K a pair, go down to 80Hz, weight 14lbs.
vs. the MMG's can go down to 50Hz, weight 20lbs. There is usually a used
pair for half the price of the MC1's.

thanks.

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RE: MMG vs. MC1 for surrounds - pictureguy 22:45:28 10/16/10 (0)
one possible help?
MMG, like all other Magnepan is not symetric. The tweeter is on one side. I'd try 'em BOTH ways and mess with the angle until I got it right.

Personally, and this is just a sheer guess, I'd start with the tweeter NEAREST the wall.
Too much is never enough
RE: MMG vs. MC1 for surrounds - josh358 12:26:27 10/15/10 (2)
The MMG's and MC-1's are tuned differently. What will happen if you wall mount the MMG's is that you'll get a rising bass response. This is easily equalized out, so I'm inclined to agree with those who say go with the MMG's if size isn't an issue.
- RE: MMG vs. MC1 for surrounds - Lynxo 12:50:30 10/15/10 (1)
  thanks for all the feedback :-)
  
  probably the reason why the MC1 can only go down to 80Hz so it can be
  wall mounted.
  
  also looked at the MMGW's, 100-16Khz, I also listen to multi ch. music so
  no go on that.
  
  I would wall mount it just like the MC1's, one side to the wall and can swing flush to the wall when not in use.
  
  I'm currently using Jamo C80 dipoles. I don't know if I should be
  bother with switch to maggie surrounds. The vertical height of
  the maggies would seem to produce more room filling surround.
  - RE: MMG vs. MC1 for surrounds - josh358 14:08:28 10/15/10 (0)
    The MC-1's are small to facilitate wall mounting. If they'd tried to get more bass out of it they would have had to increase the size of the speaker or decrease maximum output levels, because they would have had to introduce a bass resonance. Since bass below 80 Hz is essentially non-directional, there was no reason to do that in a surround.
    
    I'm not sure if you'll get more room filling surround from the Magnepan dipoles. That would certainly be true if you were comparing them to the typical box, but you're comparing them to other dipoles. What the MMG's will do is sound better, since they're better speakers that in most respects outperform anything else in their price range.
    
    IIRC they already have holes that you could use to mount them to the wall with a piano hinge without drilling any new holes in the speaker, BTW. You have holes on the bottom that the feet bolt through, and then I think you have a hole up at the top, so you're covered. You'll have to cut a hole through the sock but you can always replace that if you decide to sell them down the line.
RE: MMG vs. MC1 for surrounds - grantv 12:02:27 10/15/10 (4)
How about MMGW's? I use them in my HT for rears and they work fine. If this is for Multi CH music maybe I wouldn't, but for HT I think they're fine. Otherwise I'd agree with Greg, buy MMG's and make'm work.
- I'm going to try a pair of MMGCs - wazoo 07:50:09 10/16/10 (3)
  I already had one - that I formerly used in the living room. They will only be for movies - my focus is stereo in the new listening room. I say that even though it's definitely where we'll be watching movies or concerts. It's not ideal, but I made a pair of shelves to which they are bolted - using the factory leveling hardware. Magnepan suggests a little absorption behind them when they're in a cabinet - I'm treating this configuration as a cabinet.
  
  I have started mounting acoustic treatments since taking that photo. All I need is some paint and I'll get the baseboards installed this weekend. We finally decided just to stay in the blues for the trim - actually buying the paint is the easy part (deciding what color to use is the bitch). Leland (Maggie dealer) gave me some wire (and I mean 'gave') - some Kimber (but only one was long enough, so I used it for my sub) and some Linn (looks like Monster), which is what I terminated last night. Now I have to cut all of the little wooden hangers which will support the wire along the top of the knee wall, but I'm initially hooking it up without all of that hoopla.
  
  Andy, if you're reading this, I'm still stuck into the room ;-)
  
  "Jazz is not dead - it just smells funny" FZ
  - RE: I'm going to try a pair of MMGCs - josh358 08:54:29 10/16/10 (2)
    Have you considered going with a fake baseboard? I did that in my hall, hollowed out the existing baseboards to accomodate wires and made covers for them. Since you're building from scratch though you can buy modular hollow baseboard conduit that screws to the wall.
    - already have the baseboard - wazoo 13:58:48 10/16/10 (1)
      I could always run it down the table saw and cut a channel in the back of the baseboad for the wire, then take it out the top where it needs to exit. I may do that - this is actually the perfect wire for doing such a thing. The only downside is that I would never have access to it again once I install the baseboard, but I don't see that as being an issue.
      
      Thanks for the suggestion.
      
      "Jazz is not dead - it just smells funny" FZ
      - RE: already have the baseboard - josh358 14:51:13 10/16/10 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: already have the baseboard posted by wazoo on October 16, 2010 at 13:58:48
        
        Could you screw the baseboard into the studs rather than nailing it?
RE: MMG vs. MC1 for surrounds - gregmacknass2@netzero.com 11:38:23 10/15/10 (0)
I say go for the MMG's. For half the price, I am sure that you can find a way to make them work for you. Maybe build some raised stands for them. Or even raised stands with casters, so they are easy to move if space is at a premium. Just my opinion though.
-Greg
RE: MMG vs. MC1 for surrounds - ProfPaul 11:22:37 10/15/10 (0)
MMGs wouldn't work well for wall mounting. They are designed to sit at least a few feet from walls to sound their best. I'm not sure about the MC1 design in that respect.

The lower frequency output on the MMGs wouldn't be a huge issue for surround speakers - you don't need a lot of LF from those normally.

I love MMGs, but I would suggest you can place them reasonably before you consider them for surround speakers. I don't know as much about the MC1s.

Paul

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